HomeMy WebLinkAboutDecember 5, 2002Council Chambers, City Hall, 1501 Truxtun Avenue
ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Commissioners Blockley, Ellison, Gay, McGinnis, Sprague, Tragish
Commissioner Tkac
Advisory Members: Ginny Gennaro, Stanley Grady, Marian Shaw, Jack Leonard
Staff: Jim Movius, Pam Townsend
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
PUBLIC STATEMENTS:
None
CONSENT CALENDAR:
4.1 Non-Public Hearing Items
4.1a Approval of minutes for Planning Commission meetings of November 4 & 7, 2002.
Motion was made by Commissioner McGinnis, seconded by Commissioner Gay, to approve
the minutes of November 4 & 7, 2002. Motion carried by group vote.
4.2
Public Hearing Items
4.2a Approve Development Plan Review No. 02-0922 (Mark Costa)
Commissioner Tragish requested this item be removed from the Consent Calendar.
PUBLIC HEARING - Tentative Tract Maps
5.1 Vestinq Tentative Tract Map 6095 (The Lusich Co., Inc.)
Public portion of the hearing was opened. Staff report given recommending approval with
conditions including the memorandums from the Planning Department and Public Works
Department.
Minutes, PC, December 5, 2002 Page 2
No one spoke against the project. Robert Lusich, representing the applicant, concurred with
staff's recommendation.
Public portion of the hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tragish asked Mr. Grady to draw an example of how staff would like lots 11
and 12 of Phase G and 18 and 19 of Phase H placed since staff denied the applicant's
request to change the configuration of the lots to fit the rectangular building envelop
planned for the houses. Mr. Grady said he was unable to draw it on the screen but
explained the rational behind radial and perpendicular lots. The lots are square to the street
with a uniform frontage. Mr. Grady showed Commissioner Tragish how lot 18 would be
drawn.
Commissioner Tragish asked Mr. Lusich if he agreed with this and he said yes.
Commissioner McGinnis asked about item 8 of the environmental checklist. It said "low
density residential" and asked if it should say "high density residential" and if so what affect
that would have on the school situation. Mr. Grady said yes it should but that the school
fees would still be paid at building permit based on the project that is being built. If it is a
single family house, there is a fee for that. If it is a four-plex lot, there is a fee for that.
Commissioner Sprague asked if the tract is developed in order such as A through G or can
they develop any phase of that tract anytime they want to? Ms. Shaw said that usually the
developer would do them sequentially but sometimes the sequence changes. Staff tries to
be as flexible as possible while making sure there is all the appropriate infrastructure to
support each phase as it goes.
Commissioner Sprague asked that if Phase G is developed before Phase H if there are any
conditions for secondary access? There is only one access into Phase G. Can a condition
be made to require Phase H be constructed before Phase G? Mr. Lusich said that in
working with the Fire Department, there is actually a note on the end of the cul-de-sac in
Phase G to require secondary emergency access. It will have removable bollards in it and
will provide both pedestrian and emergency secondary access to the subdivision.
Commissioner Sprague asked what an equivalent barrier to concrete would be as stated on
Page 3 of the staff report? Mr. Grady said the equivalent barrier refers to the fence, not the
concrete curbing. They can put up a block wall or a chainlink fence.
Commissioner Ellison asked staff if this tract map will connect to other tract maps to the
east and west? Ms. Shaw said they are trying to provide as much flexibility as possible for
future development adjacent to this property. Right now as the property is being developed,
there is no access to the west or east. All access is off of Berkshire or Hosking. Access to
Wible will be provided if the property to the west is developed, through the points that they
have asked for street right-of-way. The same goes for the property to the west.
Commissioner Ellison asked if the lots designed radically on the cul-de-sacs will affect
those easements? Ms. Shaw said that it looks to be effective.
Motion was made by Commissioner Tragish, seconded by Commissioner McGinnis, to
approve and adopt the Negative Declaration and approve Vesting Tentative Map No. 6095
with the findings and conditions set forth in the attached resolution Exhibit A including the
Planning Department and Public Works memos dated December 5, 2002.
Minutes, PC, December 5, 2002 Page 3
5.2
5.3
Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Blockley, Ellison, Gay, McGinnis, Tragish, Sprague
None
Commissioner Tkac
Vestinq Tentative Tract Map 6132 (Mclntosh and Associates)
Public portion of the hearing was opened. Staff report given recommending approval.
No one spoke against the project. Roger Mclntosh, representing the applicant, said that
they concur with the conditions in the staff report along with the Public Works memorandum
dated December 4, 2002 deleting condition number five.
Public portion of the hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tragish asked if this project is approved if it will be subject to the new
ordinance regarding four-plexes? Mr. Grady said the new ordinance has not been adopted by
the City Council so this project would not be subject to it.
Commissioner Gay asked if this project will be required to have a block wall since it is next to
industrial and Mr. Grady said yes.
Commissioner Sprague asked if it would be a six foot or an eight foot block wall? Mr. Grady
said the standard is six foot.
Commissioner Sprague asked what the two dark blips are in the tract map? Mr. Grady said
they appear to be topo lines which will be taken care of in the grading process.
Motion was made by Commissioner Tragish, seconded by Commissioner Blockley, to
approve Vesting Tentative Map No. 6132 with the findings and conditions set forth in the
attached resolution Exhibit A and as set forth in the Public Works memorandum of
December 4, 2002.
Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Blockley, Ellison, Gay, McGinnis, Tragish, Sprague
None
Commissioner Tkac
Vestinq Tentative Tract Map 6150 (Mclntosh and Associates)
Public portion of the hearing was opened. Staff report given recommending approval.
Minutes, PC, December 5, 2002 Page 4
No one spoke against the project. Roger Mclntosh, representing the applicant, said they
concur with the staff report and is requesting the Commission approve the project
Public portion of the hearing was closed.
Commissioner Gay asked if when they reduce the open space area if it affects their park
contribution? Mr. Grady said these are minor adjustments and would not affect it.
Motion was made by Commissioner Tragish, seconded by Commissioner Ellison, to
approve and adopt the Negative Declaration and approve Vesting Tentative Map No. 6150
with the findings and conditions set forth in the attached Exhibit A.
Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Blockley, Ellison, Gay, McGinnis, Tragish, Sprague
None
Commissioner Tkac
5.4
Vestinq Tentative Tract Map 6151 (Mclntosh and Associates)
Public portion of the hearing was opened. Staff report given recommending approval.
No one spoke against the project. Roger Mclntosh said they concur with the staff report
Public portion of the hearing was closed.
Motion was made by Commissioner Gay, seconded by Commissioner McGinnis, to approve
and adopt the Negative Declaration and approve Vesting Tentative Map No. 6151 with the
findings and conditions set forth in the attached resolution Exhibit A.
Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Blockley, Ellison, Gay, McGinnis, Tragish, Sprague
None
Commissioner Tkac
PUBLIC HEARING - Development Plan Review No. 02-0922 (Mark Costa)
Public portion of the hearing was opened. Staff report given recommending approval including the
memorandum from the Public Works Department.
No one spoke against the project. Mark Costa, applicant, stated he concurs with the staff report and
is here to answer any questions from the Commission.
Public portion of the hearing was closed.
Commissioner Tragish asked if there is a requirement for a block wall in the rear of the property?
Minutes, PC, December 5, 2002 Page 5
Mr. Grady said no there is no requirement for a block wall. Commissioner Tragish said he has a
concern about a buffer between this property and the residential to the rear and asked if it could be
made a condition of approval? Mr. Grady said yes the Commission could apply a condition to the
project since it is a PCD.
Commissioner Tragish asked Mr. Costa if he had a problem putting a six foot block wall in the rear
of the property? Mr. Costa said that if the majority of the Commission would like a block wall, he
would be in agreement with that.
Commissioner Tragish asked where the floodlights in the rear of the property will be placed? Mr.
Costa showed him on the screen.
Commissioner Tragish also asked if Mr. Costa will be hooking up to city sewer and if the existing
septic tank will be removed? Mr. Leonard said they generally break the top, fill it and leave it in
place.
Commissioner Tragish stated that that is all the questions he has but requested the other
Commissioners consider his request for a block wall.
Commissioner Gay had a question about trash pickup and was told by staff that the trash pickup will
be on June Street.
Commissioner Sprague asked if the trash enclosure was Calcrete and Ms. Shaw said it was made
with concrete blocks.
Commissioner Ellison said that it appears that the rear parking area is about 80 feet to the back wall
with trees and a grass area. Although he could go either way, he feels there is sufficient setback for
a wood fence.
Commissioner Tragish asked if a gate is needed off of June Street for fire access? Commissioner
Tragish said he is not thrilled about having access off of June Street even for Mr. Costa's personal
use. Dave Weirather, from Fire Prevention, said there are no structures in the back area so the
Fire Department can access the area from Ming Avenue.
Commissioner Blockley asked if on future projects they would have the discretion to impose a
condition for a block wall? Mr. Grady said yes. Also, if Mr. Costa or a subsequent landowner
wanted to add a structure in the rear, if it would come through the Planning Commission? Mr.
Grady said yes through a Revised PCD. He said he is in agreement with Commissioner Ellison and
does not believe a block wall should be required.
Commissioner McGinnis asked if staff has a problem with Mr. Costa being able to access his
property from the rear? Mr. Grady said no and Commissioner McGinnis said he does not either.
Mr. Costa has complied with everything staff has asked him to do and has maintained the property
very well. He does not see a necessity for a block wall.
Commissioner Sprague said he does not see the necessity for a block wall either and asked if there
has been any correspondence from adjacent residents in approval or in opposition to this project?
Mr. Grady said not to his knowledge.
Commissioner Gay said that at some point he agrees a block wall would be good but at the same
time the chainlink fence would allow the neighbors to see the landscaping and trees and the graffiti
problem would be reduced significantly. Commissioner Gay said he would like a motion as it stands
without a block wall.
Minutes, PC, December 5, 2002 Page 6
Commissioner Tragish asked if there will be other tenants in the building? Mr. Costa said no.
Motion was made by Commissioner Gay, seconded by Commissioner McGinnis, to adopt the
resolution making findings approving the development plan for 2210 Ming Avenue as delineated in
the attached Exhibit 3 with findings set forth in the attached resolution and including the memo
dated December 4 from Marian Shaw and recommend same to City Council.
Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES:
Commissioners Blockley, Ellison, Gay, McGinnis, Sprague
NOES:
Commissioner Tragish
ABSENT: Commissioner Tkac
Commissioner Tragish, explaining his no vote, said that even with a chainlink fence, commercial
property should have a buffer with the neighborhood. People will be coming and going and he feels
there should be some blocking off of that activity from the residential neighborhood. He also does
not think it is necessary for Mr. Costa to have access from both the front and rear of his property.
COMMUNICATIONS
Mr. Grady told the Commission they have been provided with the Environmental Impact Reports for
the two commercial PCDs that will be housing Walmarts that the Commission will be hearing on
December 19, 2002.
COMMISSION COMMENTS
Commissioner Gay requested that the Commission forgo their dinner break for the upcoming long
meeting that is scheduled. He suggested a 15 minute break so that the public is not kept waiting.
Commissioner Ellison mentioned he gave a planning presentation to a seventh grade class on
Tuesday where they conducted a mock Planning Commission meeting.
Commissioner Tragish said he would prefer having the usual 30 minute dinner break.
Commissioner Sprague agreed with Commissioner Tragish.
Commissioner Gay said in that case he would hope the break would come between the two agenda
items and not stop in the middle on one.
Commissioner Sprague praised Councilmember Salvaggio's efforts in preserving Kern River water.
9. DISCUSSION AND ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE CANCELLATION OF THE NEXT PRE-
MEETING.
Minutes, PC, December 5, 2002 Page 7
It was decided there would be a pre-meeting on December 16, 2002.
10. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Commission, the meeting was adjourned at
6:29 p.m.
Pam Townsend, Recording Secretary
January 3, 2003
STANLEY GRADY, Secretary
Planning Director