HomeMy WebLinkAbout06/02/92MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF BAKERSFIELD
Held Thursday,-February 6, 1992, 5:30 p.m., City Council Chamber, City Hall, 1501
TruxtunAvenue, Bakersfield, California.
I. ROLL' cALL
COMMISSIONERS': Present:
JIM MARINO, Chairperson
STEVE ANDERSON, Vice Chairperson
TERI BJORN
DAVID COHN
STEVE MESSNER
DARREN POWERS
KATE ROSENLIEB
C. ROBERT FRAPWELL, Alternate
ADVISORY MEMBERS: Present:
LAURA MARINO, Deputy City
Attorney
FRED KLOEPPER, Assistant Public
Works DirectOr
CALVIN BIDWELL, Building Director
STAFF: Present:
JACK HARDiSTY, Planning Director
JIM MOVIUS, Principal Planner
MIKE LEE, AssOciate Planner
LAURIE DAVIS,-RecOrding Secretary
2. PUBLIC STATEMENTS
No one made any public statements at this time.
Chairman read the notice of right to appeal, as set forth on the agenda.
WALL AND LANDSCAPE PLANS - TENTATIVE TRACT 5545
Commissioner Anderson abstained from participation on this item due to a
possible conflict of. interest in that his company is providing services to an
adjoining tand owner. -
Commissioner Powers abstained due to the fact the applicant has been a source
of income during the last year.
Minutes, PC; 2/6/92 ' ' Page 2
-Commissioner Rosenlieb abstained due to the' fact the applicant has been a
Source of income during the last year.
Staff report was given.
Kenneth Mettler was present, as the applicant. He said he provided examples of
all materials to be used. The signage he is proposing is very Iow maintenance and
easy t° _repair. He-asked that they be allowed to use the corner treatment as
shoWn on the plans and utilize' the same paint products used immediately to the
west of this subdivision.
Mr. Ha~disty said staff would prefer not to allow the corner treatment, because it
is not the entrance to the subdivision but a collector road~ Regarding the use of
Paint on the wall, Rob Cramer representing the Parks Department said they have.
not ~had any problems with' the painted signage and he would not recommend
denial on this.
Responding to a question by Commissioner Marino, Mr. Hardisty said other
subdivisions do not have-as much entrance signage.as this subdivision is
proposing.
Responding to a question by Commissioner Bjorn, Mr. Hardisty clarified
Condition # 1 of~Planning Department conditions was worded with the thought
that none of the signage would be approved given a recommendation against
paint. HoWever if the Commission is inclined to approve the use of the paint
proposed, .the first sentence could be deleted.
~Mr. Movius clarified that under the present conditions the applicant would be
allowed to place signage at both sides of the entrance, therefore the Commission
would, have to limit it if they so desire. Responding to a question by
Commissioner Cohn~ Mr. Movius cited a subdivision to the west which contains.
signage on both sides of the'entrance.
· MOtiOn was made by' Commissioner Cohn, seconded by Commissioner Frapwell to
approve wall and landscape plans for Tentative Tract 5545, subject to the
conditions outlined in the Exhibit "A" attached to the staff report, with the
exception that the applicant may use painted lettering as proposed and allowed to
locate signage at both sides of the entrance, at White Lane and El Sueno, and
with the deletion of the first sentence of Condition #2 of Planning Department
conditions. Motion carried. Commissioners Anderson, Powers and Rosenlieb
were absent.
Minutes, PC, 2/6/92
4. PUBLIC HEARING - TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 9723
CommisSioner Powers abstained on 'this item due to a conflict of interest.
Page 3
Commissioner Anderson-abstained on this item due to a conflict of interest.
A request was received from the applicant to continue this item to the regular
meeting of April 1-6, 1992.
Public portion of the hearing was-opened; no one spoke on this item.
Motion was made by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner
Frapwell to continue-this item to the regular meeting of April 16, 1992. Motion
carried. Commissioners Anderson and Powers were absent.
5.1)
5.2)
PUBLIC HEARING - TENTATIVE TRACT 5559
A request was received from the applicant to readvertise this project at a later
date.
-Staff report was waived.
Motion was made by Commissioner Messner, seconded by Commissioner
Rosenlieb to refer this item back to staff for further consideration. Motion
carried.
'.' PUBLIC HEARING - TENTATIVE TRACT 5581
Commissioners pOWers, Anderson and Marino abstained from hearing this item
due to a posSible Conflict of interest.
Motion was made by .Commissioner Bjorn, seconded by Commissioner Cohn to
appoint Commissioner Rosenlieb temporary chairperson. Motion carried.
COmmissioner Marino abstained.
-Staff report was given.
Public portion of.the .hearing was opened; no one spoke in opposition.
.Minutes,:PC, 2/6/92'
Page 4
Greg Owens was present representing the applicant. He stated, they concur with
all conditions of the-staff report. Commissioner Rosenlieb asked if he would
.agree to a requirement for meandering sidewalk. He said the developer would
like to have a straight sidewalk with 30 feet of landscaping. Judy Salamaeha
represented Castle and Cooke Development Corporation. She said their
preference is for a meandering sidewalk, however they would prefer to keep it as
an option rather than a requirement.
Public portion-of the hearing was closed.
Mr. Kloepper cited the letter from Castle & Cooke regarding the payment of
regional circulation impact fees saying the city agrees their proposal as outlined in
the letter .will satisfy the regional traffic impacts associated with this project.
Secondly/in the event'the fees are raised by the Council before a building permit
.is applied for they would be subject to the higher fees.
Commissioner Rosenlieb said she would like to see some thought given to
landscaping, sidewalk and streetscape in light of the existing development in the
area.
Ms. Salamacha said the issue of meandering sidewalks is one that will definitely
be considered.
Responding to a question by Commissioner Bjorn, Commissioner Rosenlieb said
there would-be no wall in~ this development. The landscaping would be addressed
through the site plan review process.
Commissioner Rosenlieb cited her concern about the tower line area not being
integrated intO.the project. The applicant said the northern portion of the tower
line-would be used for RV parking and the center piece would be used as a sump.
Motion was made by Commissioner Messner, seconded by Commissioner Bjorn to
approve and adopt the Negative Declaration, to make all findings set forth in the
staff report, and to approve Proposed Tentative Tract 5581, subject to the
conditions outlined in the Exhibit "A" attached to the staff report. Motion
carried. Commissioners Powers, Anderson and Marino were absent.
Minutes, PC, 2/6/92 Page 5
6.' GENERAL PLAN CONSISTENCY FINDING - SOUTHWEST CORNER OF
CAMINO MEDIA AND OLD RIVER ROAD
Staff report was given.
Motion was made by Commissioner Powers, seconded by Commissioner Messner
to make a finding pursuant to Government Code 65402, that the proposed
acquisition of real proper~ty for the proposed Old River/Camino Media water well
site is consistent with the general plan. Motion carried. Commissioner Anderson
abstained from voting due to a possible conflict of interest.
7.A
Communications- Written
Mr. Hardisty cited copies of articles of interest submitted to the Commission.
1) _ Memo from Attorney Marino regarding conducting of meetings
Commissioner Rosenlieb said she did not like the portion of the memo
stating in order for the Commission to debate they must put a motion on
the floor. She said she would rather handle it the way in which-the '
Commission has been which is a debate and then a motion. She cited the
portion of the memo which says comments should be discouraged until all
testimony is taken and public hearing is closed, saying there are occasions
when during the public hearing in order to expedite it, it becomes
necessary to ask staff a question. She asked if this is permissible. Ms.
Marino said this ties into the same rule under Roberts Rules which states
no discussion should occur until a motion is on the floor. If the
Commission does not wish to follow this rule then the by-laws need to be
amended to. this effect. She' felt the Commission should Consider some of
the Consequences ofthis; that the discussion gets out of hand andthere is
no way of getting back on track if there is no motion on the floor.
Regarding the conducting of Monday pre-meetings COmmissioner
Rosenlieb said she had no problem with this. Regarding recommendation
of time limits she stated she asked the Commission when she was chair if
time limits could be placed on speakers and the Commission did not want
to support this. She felt this memo was a direct result of problems arising
ai the last meeting. She felt this'maybe an over reaction.
Minutes,
PC, 2/_6/92 Page 6
Responding to comments by Commissioner Marino, Ms. Marino clarified
the procedure for placing a motion on the floor. She clarified that under
the Brown Act all public meetings require the Commission to permit
public statements. He felt possibly speakers cards should be filled out for
anyone wishing to speak at a pre-meeting.
Commissioner Powers said he had not felt since his tenure on the
Commission that a pre-meeting has gotten out of hand or that a debate
has taken place. He felt regarding time limits it wOUld be more productive
to allow those wishing to speak but possibly a 3-minute time limit would be
appropriate if applied evenly. Regarding making a motion before
beginning discussion he felt the reason the Commission is able to
~accomplish what they do is their ability to work out a solution at the time.
He felt following Roberts Rules would confuse the situation.
CommiSsioner Anderson was concerned about the process becoming
redundant:-' He agreed with Commissioner Rosenlieb's comment regarding
occasions when the Commission must ask a question of staff during the
public hearing in-order to clarify the situation for the neighbors. He felt
motions tend to become technical which is after the Commission has a
chance to debate amongst themselves. He felt it would be cumbersome to
put themselves in a position of not having a free-flowing forum.' He said
he is in favor of anything which wOUld shorten the process.
Commissioner Bjorn said she shared all concerns raised by other
commissioners, asking the City Attorney if the by-laws needed to be
amended in-order that the Commission not have to comply with all
requirements of Roberts Rules. Ms. Marino said the Commission's bY-laws
state the Commission will follow Roberts Rules except where changes have
been made~' She suggested the Commission do this but consider how it
may'be done without dropping every forum of order. Commissioner Bjorn
said she would be in favor of amending the by-laws.
Commissioner Powers felt possibly a short workshop could be conducted
before the next meeting.
Mr.. Hardisty said the by-laws would be placed on the next agenda. He
said under Roberts Rules the Commission already has the ability to set
time limits on-hearings.
Commissioner Marino suggested as an alternative the Chairman could read
staff's recommendation before the public hearing. _
Minutes, PC, 2/6/92
7.
B.i) ~Communications - Verbal
' Page 7
DiscUssion regarding School Task Force
Mr. Grady stated he had attended the last meeting and a letter will be
formalized and sent to the Commission outlining meetings conducted by
the task force and issues that the.executive committee will be looking into.
He cited some of these issues being year-round school systems and
construction needs for schools, cooperation of school districts, reducing
· administrative costs, use of standardized construction plans and the effect
of cost on .new schools, evaluation of prevailing wages for workers, fiat fee,
and the use of Mello-Roos districts. These issues Will 'be looked into in
greater detail to be presented at a meeting scheduled for May 1, 1992. '
The executive committee Will meet next wednesdaY. He outlined the nexus
requirements of the fees.
Commissioner Anderson stated he had been asked to participate in the
sub-committee.looking at the technical issues. He said they are trying to
avOid sending this issue onto the Council without finding some possible
solutions to problems.
B.2)
Transportation Impact fee status report
'Mr. KloepPer Stated the Commission had each received a copy of Ordinance 3429
which the City Council adopted on January 29th. Minor modifications were made
to the fee schedule. The fee would go into effect 60 days after the County adopts
a similar ordinance. It looked as if it Will be adopted by the County in the middle
of March.
Responding to a question by Commissioner Rosenlieb, Mr. Hardisty said the
indication he has' received is that the County will probably adopt this fee with the
same optimism and reservations that the Council had in adopting it.
B.3 DiscussiOn regarding Electro Magnetic Fields
Mr. 'Hardisty s-aid this issue has been one of recent community controversy.
P.G.&E. and the Planning Department have enter'ed into a closer and more
cooperative working relationship in terms of the advance planning for the need
for transmission lines and will be concerning themselves with these routes while
approving 'major projects in the future. Planning staff Will try to' incorporate the
.poli6y of prudent avoidance to minimize exposures. Staff will be getting back to
the Commission in-the future regarding ordinance revisions.
Miriutes;~PC, 2/6/92
Page 8
Responding t~-a question by Commissioner Anderson, Mr. Hardisty said
P.G.&E.., only needs to respond to the Public Utilities.Commission's general rules
and orders and as long as they comply they are exempt from local control.
Responding to discussion, Mr. Hardisty said there are no other limitations to
what may be erected-in a public utilities easement by the utilities.
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COMMISSION COMMENTS'
Responding to comments by Commissioner Powers regarding the League' of
California cities Planner's Institute, Mr. Hardisty recommended attendance by
those who have not had a chance.
commissioner Rosenlieb cited the denial of the annexation req.uest by LAFCO on
Buena Vista #5. She said her understanding for the denial was because:it Came
to the Commission zoned agriculture. Responding to a question by her, Mr.
Hardisty said' staff's position is that LAFCO went beyond its reasonable purview
in the denial of the project. Their rules require that the property be prezoned.
Thepoli¢~ of not allowing annexations which are zoned agriculture is one which
was made up in the staff report. It is not unusual for the city to annex
agriculturally zoned 'property. Mr. Hardisty said an option is to create an urban
reserve zone designation, however he was not sure LAFCO would approve
annexations with this designation either.
9. ADJOURNMENT
There beling no further business to come before the Commission, meeting was
adjourned at 7:01 p.m.
Laurie Davis
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