HomeMy WebLinkAbout12/17/92 MINUTES OF -THE REGULAR MEETING
OF THE
.... pLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY .OF BAKERSFIELD
Held Thursday, 'December 17, 1992,. 5:30 p.m., City Council Chamber, City Hall, 1501
~Truxtun Avenue, Bakersfield, California.
1. ROLL CALL ....
COMMISSIONERS:
Present:
DARREN POWERS,Chairperson
STEVE MESSNER, Vice Chairperson.
JEFF ANDREW
DAVID COHN
KENNETH HERSH
JIM MARINO
KATE ROSENLIEB
C. ROBERT FRAPWELL, Alternate
ADVISORY MEMBERS: Present:
STAFF:
Present:
PUBLIC STATEMENTS'
LAURA MARINO, Assistant City
Attorney
FRED KLOEPPER, Assistant Public
Works Director
CALVIN BIDWELL, Building DirectOr
'STANLEY GRADY, Assistant Planning
Director -
MARC GAUTHIER, Principal Planner
MIKE LEE, Associate Planner
LAURIE DAVIS, 'Recording Secretary
No one made any public statements at this time.
Chairman 'read the notice of right to appeal as set forth on the agenda.
Minutes, PC, 12/17/92
COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PLAN 3-92
Page 2
staff, report was given.
Pete--Ramirez represented the applicant. He outlined language in Section B,
Paragraph 6'and the addition of Paragraph 7 of Section B, saying the mall has, in
ihe past, not allowed requests which have been brought directly to the City. He
said'during:expansion it became apparent to them that they could soften the
block walI entrances by using awnings and pop-outs. He said regarding. Table 1,
he understood concerns ~from the sign committee that if the language is
broadened:to include occupants adjacent to public entrances others might Want
these types of signs and it may get out of control. He recommended the word
"immediately" be added after occupants in order to control this. Regarding Table
2, .he said'the sign. for Pier 1 Imports is 14 inches long with 19-inch lettering, but
the overall area _is only-8.32 percent. He said because of the Wording to the effect
that signS shall be removed if a sign is damaged he did ~not feel the tenant should
have to totally remove the sign in this event. He asked for reconsideration of
this~ He said the' awning signage for Jolly Roger waS installed prior to 1986,
asking/hat the Commission reconsider removal of this. -Exhibit "A", Paragraph 10
he said-he would like to-maintain the language but possibly specify the existing
signs that are "in place.
to questions by Commissioner Hersh, Mr. Ramirez said .the Plaza has
a manual containing construction criteria which is given to new tenants, however
--because they already had the greenhouse for McDonald's and Taco Bell they did
not consider 'the awning .to be something that would, not be perm!tted.
Rosenlieb cited a call she had received from Dr. Ratty stating his
concerns: Responding to a question by Commissioner Rosenlieb, Commissioner
Cohn said nothing Would stop a tenant.from knocking a hole out of the back wall
and placing a door to the 'outside and allowing an external sign. Regarding loss
of the right to repair a sign due to damage Commissioner Cohn said he was
persuaded, that if a sign is. damaged'through no fault of the tenant it shOuld be
allowed to be repaired..He felt signage within the mall does not fall within the
same criteria of need as with a business in a strip center along Ming Avenue.
Mr. Ramirez said they are .not going to permit something in the mall Which will
reflect badly..They revieW the drawings very carefully and sign off on them in
order to maintain control.
Commissioner Andrew-said he would like to stick with what was recommended in
the committee meeting. He asked if there should be a time frame given for
re ' of damaged-signs.- Mr. Ramirez said their lease requires that any repairs
'be made within 30_ days or the mall has the right to make repairs and charge the
tenant for it.
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commissioner R0senlieb. recognized Dr. Ratty who Spoke saying restricting
tenants next to the 'entrance, would not be opening a can of worms as previously
stated. He said it would-not affect him, however he felt it should be fair for -
everyone-within the mall:.
CommiSsioner M~rino agreed with the blanket removal, of the statement "or
damaged~"-'He agreed with the applicant regarding stores adjacent to the
entrances.. Responding to a question by Commissioner Marino, regarding the
remo~,al of signs in violation, Mr. Ramirez requested that the language be
~:einstated but specify the' existing signs and conditions so that it is documented.
Commissione~ Andrew r~sponded to Dr. Ratty that ~he felt the wording regarding
.immediately adjacent to entrances should remain as it was proposed by the
-committee:' Mr. Ramirez responded to questions by Commissioner Andrew saying
there are controls placed on where-walls could be opened.
Motion was made by.Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by COmmissioner Cohn
to make findings set' forth in the Sign Committee Report, and approve the
request fOr revised Comprehensive Sign. Plan for Valley Plaza, subject to the
conditions of apprisval listed in Exhibit "A" of the Sign Committee Report, with
the:rews~'ons as listed in the Planning Director's memo dated December 17, 1992;
the change of' the wording "or damaged" as it appears in the conditions shall be
removed. 'She stated the intent is that a tenant's sign which 'is damaged in which
the sign does not change, has the right to repair the damaged sign. Motion
4. PUBLIC HEARING - CHANGE OF CONDITIONS - TENT. TRACT 5623 '
Staff report was given.
Public portion of the hearing-was opened; no one spoke-in opposition. -
Roger McIntosh represented the property owner, Castle & COoke Development
Corporation. He:Ci.ted their reason for requesting this revision to conditions is
that requested a homeOWners asSociation to be-set up for the
maintenance of the:P.G.&E, easement. Since the approval of'the map ithas been
revealed that it is P.G.&E.'s responsibility to maintain the easement. He cited
the wording to this' effect as outlined in their letter of December 10, 1992. He
said they concur with staff's recommendations and asked for approval.
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Page 4
Dominic Colletta, Attorney, represented the applicant. He added that he felt the
homeowner's association 'to be a very clumsy method of attemPting to ensure that
the easements will be .maintained. He felt possibly the property owners who
would be the association members would be non-residents of the area and
potentially have little interest in operating the association .with some difficulty
forcing them to undertake the appropriate maintenance r.equired.
Public portion of the-hearing was closed.
.Commissioner Ro~'enlieb .stated she had no problem with creating a special
maintenance assessment-district for this tract, however is concerned with language
which would leave the easements with the subdivider. Responding to a question
-by Commissioner Rosenlieb, Mr. Kloepper said a consideration in lumping the
entire area to. be. assessed is uncertain as to the potential liability on the zone of
Pbenefit for the homeowners, that Will eventually own those lots. Uncertainty. of
the' total cost 'Would also be a big consideration. Discussion continued regarding
the easement. Commissioner Rosenlieb said she was not convinced by the
language Of #12, Page 4 of the staff report, which she felt simply states they will
maintain their towerline.
Commissioner Messner concurred with Commissioner Rosenlieb's comments
regarding the toweiline easement being taken literally so that is all they will
-maintain. _
Commissioner Marino agreed with comments by Commissioners Messner and
Rosenlieb, saying'he did not feel either of these items necessarily say what is
being implied.
· Motion wa~ made 'by-Commissioner Marino, seconded by Commissioner Messner
to approve, the_ proposed amendments to Planning Department conditions 10 an d
12 of Tentative Tract 5623 Exhibit "A", Page 8 of 8 as recommended in the
. December. 15, ~1992 memorandum from the Planning Director. Motion carried.
'PUBLIC HEARING - EXTENSION OF TIME - TENTATIVE TRACT 5310
Commissioner Powers abstained :due to a conflict of interest in that his employer
owns property in the vicinity of subject site.
Commissioner Messner chaired this hearing.
Staff report was given.
Public portion of the hearing was opened; no one spoke in opposition.
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Dana'Gammel.rep~esented the applicant. She stated their agreement with
conditiOns of approval.
Public pOrtion of the hearing was closed.
MOtion was made by CommissionerRosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner
FrapWell to approve a one-year extension of time for Tentative Tract 5310 subject
to the conditions outlined in the Exhibit "A". Commissioner Powers was absent
due to an abstention.
-PUBLIC HEARING-- EXTENSION OF TIME - TENTATIVE TRACT 5432
Staff report was given.
Commissioner Andrew abstained due to a conflict of interest in that he has sold
and received.commissions on property in the area within the last year.
Staff report-was givem -
Public portion of. the hearing was opened.
William Skaggs SpOke saying he lives in the area. He said a road.is shown to go
through their home, howeverthe city has agreed that the road' could be shifted to
the south. He is concerned that this will 'not happen and asked for assurance.
Mr. KlOepper Said the city does not have any lever to require the acquisition of
the right-of-way prior to. the time it is needed for the phase of the map in which
the road would.be built. The acquisition will probably be done during
development of the phase which needs the road for access which-will most likely
be the last phase.' Responding to a question by Commissioner Powers,. Ms.
Marino stated this is her interpretation as' well.
Dana Ganimel represented the applicant. She stated they are currently looking at'
transitioning the road to the south of Mr. Skaggs property and are trying to
obtain an easement' from the property owners to the south.
Public portion of the hearing was closed.
Commissioner Rosenlieb spoke to Mr. Skaggs saying she did not feel anyone
wants to see a road go through his property, however at this point there are no
guarantees,-
Commissioner Marino cited Condition #SB.1 of Public Works Conditions, Page 2
of 10 which requires-a minimum right-of-way width of 40 feet saying there was
extensive disCussiOn that this width could be installed thereby missing the existing
-structure. Mr. Kloepper recollected the condition referred to was a condition
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Which resulted from much discussion and is written ina way which allows an
option of it being on the section line, mid-section line or shifted to the south to
allow 'flexibility. He felt the developer and engineer on this tract would take the
path of least resistance which is undeveloped land to the south which will allow'
for quicker construction.- He als0 pointed out Condition XI.D regarding phased
maps~ that determines the improvements for each phase.
MOtion was made by Commissioner Marino, seconded by Commissioner Messner
to approve a One-year extension of time for Tentative Tract 5432 subject to the
conditions outlined in the Exhibit "A" and the Parks Department memo dated
December 10, I99Z Motion carried. Commissioner Andrew was absent due to
an abstention. ·
'PUBLIC HEARING- TENTATivE TRACT 5597
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Request for continuance had been received.
Staff rePort was waived. .-
Public portion-of Lthe hearing was opened; no one spoke in'oppOsition or favOr.
Motion was made by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner
Marino lo contimie'this item to the regular meeting of February 4, 1993.
CommiSsioner Rosenlieb stated for the applicant that it is getting to the point' in
which this tract has' been:continUed almost one year. Motion carried.
PuBLIC-HEARING- TENTATIVE TRACT 5327
staff report was giVen.-- i - _ '
Public portion of/he hearing was opened; no one spoke in opposition.
Cart Moreland repre, gented the applicant. He stated their agreement with staff
recommendations. -
Public PortiOn of the hearing was closed.
Mr.-Kloepper recommended Condition #26, Page 4 be deleted.
Motion was made by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner
Marino tO approve Proposed Tentative Tract 5327 (Revised) subject to the
conditiohs outlined in the Exhibit "A", with the deletion of Condition #26, Page
4. Motion carried.
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Public portion Of the hearings was opened; no one spoke.
Motion was made by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner
Marino to continue these items to the regular meeting of February 4, 1993.
'Motion carried.
6.3 puBLIC HEARING - TENTATIVE TRACT 5642
Staff report was given.
Public-portion Of the' heatingwas opened; no one spoke in-opposition.
Mike Callagy-represented the subd{vider. He stated their agreement With the
staff and asked for approval.
Motion was ma-de by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner
-- Messner to approve Proposed Tentative. Tract 5642 subject to the conditions in
the Exhibit ,A". Motion fiarried.
PUBLIC HEARING- TENTATIVE TRACT 5734 '
Request Was received fOr~continuance on this item because of inadequacy of the
traffic siudy Which was submitted. Mr. Lee, staff planner said it was
recommended by staff that this item be Continued to the January 21, 1993
meeting in Order to allow~ staff time to review traffic study and prepare a staff
- 'report.
· Staff report was waived.
Motion was made by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner
Messner to continue this 'item to the regular meeting of January 21, 1993.
Motion carried... -~ ~
'-7. ' PUBLIC' HEARING - ZONE CHANGE #5341
8.~ PUBLIC HEARING -' PREZONING #5300
A r.equest for.continuance was received on this item.
Staff report Was waiVed.
Commissioner-Rogenlieb made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Andrew to
hear this item concurrently with agenda item #8.1. Motion carried.
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· -PUBLIC HEARINGS ~ GPA 4~92, SEGMENT I & ZONE CHANGE #5392
Staff report was gi'~en.
' Public portion of the-hearing was opened; no one spoke in opposition.
Page 8
Mel Minney,-stated he is a homeowner next to subject property. He stated he is
'-:in favOr of this because promises have been Previously made for maintenance of
' ' - the property which has'not been done, therefore he said he would like to see it
return.to the previgus zoning.
Darlene Duncan stated .she-is a resident in the area. She .stated she was in 'favor
of this property returning to' the original zoning of R-1 as it was When she
PurChased her home:
Public portion Of-the heating was closed.
Respondingio questions by. Commissioner Cohn, Mr~ Minney said the property is
not being maintained at the presenttime. Mr. Cohn asked that city staff check
into the situation and possibly cite the property owner so that the problem can be
alleviated.- Mr. Quon responded that personnel from the building department
would make a site check of the property and possibly cite the owner.
Commissioner Rosenlieb ~hanked those who spoke for coming to this hearing.
She said the problems will not be Over until the site is developed:
Motion was made by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner Cohn
to adopt resolution making findings approving the Negative Declaration and_
approving Zone Change 5392 from a Planned Unit Development (PUD) zone
(#4709) to an R-1 (One Family Dwelling) zone on 14.1 acres, a R-2 (Limited
Multiple Fatally'Dwelling) zone on 2.2 acres, and a R-3 (Multiple F~/mily
Dwelling) zone on ~2.9 acres. Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES:
NoEs:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Andrew, Cohn, Hersh, Marino, Messner~
Rosenlieb, Powers
None
None-
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Motion was made by Commissioner Marino, seconded'by Commissioner Messner
to adopt resolution .making findings approving the Negative Declaration and
approving GPA. 4-92, Segment I, consisting of an-amendment to the Land Use
Element from a HR (High DensitY Residential) to LR (Low Density Residential)
land use on 14.1 acres. MotiOn carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES:
NOES:
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ABSENT:
PUBLIC HEARINGS ~ GPA 4-92, SEGMENT II
Commissioner Andrew abstained due to a conflict of interest because his
_company is listed as the .applicant.
Commissioners Andrew, Cohn, Hersh, Marino, Messner,
Rosenlieb, Powers
None
.None
Commissioner Marino abstained dUe to a perceived conflict of interest in that his
emploYer. has~ Provided services to a property owner of subject Property within the
last.year..-
Staff report was given.
Public portion of-the hca.ring was opened; no one spoke in opposition.
Brian-Haupt represented the applicant. He gave a history on this Project. He
said the general plan portion only, is before the commission at this time because
-it was recommended by staff that the zoning issue be dropped, which will be
brought up at a .later date.. He asked that this request' be approved at this
hearing.
Pauline Pascoe Stated her-agreement with the proposal, however stated she is
trusting that her water rights will be protected as she has been assured of. She
asked about the width of Panama Lane.. Mr. Kloepper said it would be 110 feet
in width and provide a right, of'way for a 6-lane arterial-street. Old River Road-is
also an 'arterial alignmentwhich, according to the general plan, would be a 6-lane
arterial road. Regarding questions by-Ms. Pascoe concerning Protection of water
.rights, Mr. Kloepper felt this is not directly related to the general plan
amendment proposed, nor does staff have answers to her questions at this
hearing: Mr. _Kioepper-said at the time of development answers to questions
regarding covering of-the canal or the possibility of a pipeline would be available.
Public portion of the hearing was closed.
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Page 10
Responding to queStions by Commissioner Rosenlieb, Mr. Kloepper said answers
to questions regarding water percolation would be available at time of
development_, however are not problems the Public Works Department would be
well-equipped to deal with.
Mr. Kloepper 'requested;.that any action taken on this item include in the Exhibit
'.'A"'the Public-Works memo dated December 4, 1992.
Commissioner Rosenlieb eXPressed Concerns to Mr. Hardisty, Planning Director,
regarding the previous staff report suggesting that the commercial portion in the
northwest corner of the section be designed so that frontage be along Pacheco
because of the gas line. She stated her concern that staff is requesting that
properties be-designed arOund the gas line. She did not know if it was.
appropriate to do -this citing the'furthest south commercial portion being moved
because of staff'S concerns. She said-a large portion of residential has been
allow6d'over the gas line. with 50-foot setbacks at the north portion, however it
seems as if now staff' is-saying it is not safe to have residential surrounding this
gas' line. She also-said she felt because of the request for addition and expansion
of commercial .sites in-this application, some negotiation should have taken place-
on the. city's part Which would have resulted in the applicant giving up the mid- '
block 5 acre portion. She said she felt this project is like placing the "cart before.
the-horse" and she would very reluctantly support it. She requested that the
commission-not handle any more requests with the cart before the hOrse approach
by splitting the applications.
ResPonding to .a.qUestion by Commissioner Messne~, Commissioner Rosenlieb
Said she would like'to See finding #4 changed to add the word "interim" in place
of the word_"holding." Commissioner Messner stated he would support this. He
also agreed with Commissioner Rosenlieb's comments regarding this application
being the "cart before the horse." He said regarding Ms. PaScoe's questions that
she may need.to consult legal counsel regarding the water issues. The
commission's purview is' the mitigation of environmental impacts. If the ground
water loss'could be shown to be an environmental impact it could be dealt with
by this commisSion, however at this time 'it appears to be more of an economic
-impact.. He cited a letter from SimPson-VanCuren pointing out one of the
general commercial denotations would be in violation of the general plan
requiring a 1/2 mile buffer between commercial designations, however did not feel
it was material to .this project,
Commissioner Hersh agreed with Commissioner Rosenlieb's comment saying he
did not feel a precedent should be set for anyone. He said he would support this
project 'because he felt the applicant acted under the direction of staff.
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Commissioner Powers felt it would be preferable to have a complete project,
however he saw the reasbning behind this project being submitted as it was. He
stated he had a conversation with Michelle Lamoine of Simpson VanCuren
regarding.the letter she submitted, stating he appreciated the effort to make 'sure
a conflict did not exist. He stated he would support this project.
Motion was-made'by COmmissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner
Messner to adopt resolution making findings as set forth in staff report approving
the_Negative Declaration and approving GPA .4-92, Segment II, Consisting of an
amendment to the Land Use Element from LR (Low Density. Residential) to GC
(General Commercial) on 7.0 acres on the southeast corner of Buena Vista Road
and .Pacheco. Road,~and on 17.5 acres at the northwest corner of Old River Road
and Panama ~Lane, subject to' mitigation measures and conditions of approval
listed in.Exhibit-"A" andhsted in the PUblic Works memo dated December 4,
1992, and the change to Finding #4, Page7 of the staff report by replacing the
word "hOlding" with the word "interim" and recommend same to City Council.
Motion carried by the' following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Cohn, Frapwell, Hersh, Messner, Rosenlieb,
Powers -
NOES: None
ABSENT:
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Commissioners Andrew, Marino
PUBLIC HEARINGS , GPA 4-92, SEGMENT III AND ZONE CHANGE
#5391
Mr. Grady stated staff initiated this. application under the direction of the
Planning Commission. ,,,Because of changes in legislation relative to school fees
there will be a new method of calculating it at the beginning of 1993. He
requested that the staff report, be waived, public portion of the hearing opened,
comments taken, and that this item be continued to the January 7, 1993 meeting
in order to give staff the opportunity to amend the negative declaration to reflect
new changes in law-relative to school fees.
Publi~ portion of the hearing was opened; no one spoke in opposition Or in favor.
MOtion Was made by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner
Messner to cOntinue this item to the January 7, 1993 meeting. ~Motion carried.
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Page 12
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PUBLIC HEARINGS -~GPA 4-92, SEGMENT IV
Staff report was given.
Public' portion of the hearing was opened; no one spoke in opPosition.
Maurice Etche~hury.rep/esented the owner of Tract 5335. He stated' the
collectors in-this area' ~xisted prior to construction of the freeways which severed
existing neighborhoods, in this instance they are in an area which is newly
developing in Which subdivisions can be constructed in a manner which.would not
. required-'tying neighborhoods together on each side of the freeway. Commercial
is a,~ailable to:the subdivision on the west side of Freeway 99, at Berkshire and
South "H"-Street and HoSking and South "H" Street. The development would not
hamper'the ability to. 'transport children to school. They are not eliminating
collectors completely,-but a limited collector which will gather the bulk of the
traffic from their subdivision. There; are no through streets in the layout of the
tract. 'To the south, the extension of Hughes Lane, this collector is brought into
the-subdivision, in which this traffic will be gathered and moved to the south to
-Hosking Road. He felt_ there are many examples in the city .in which collectors
are not continuous. He felt consideration needs to be given to whether traffic
should be-mOVing extended distances on collector streets. He said the cost needs
to'be Considered if this is added .to the regional traffic impact fee list, asking if
-the doliar figure.for th:e cost would equal the amount of service gained.
Carl Morelanti represented the owner of subject property. He agreed with the
comments madeby Mr. Etchechury saying he felt their subdivisions are designed
to fiow easily. _ --' -- -
John: Guimarra spoke-saying he is the developer of the proposed subdivision on
the east side of Highway 99 which would be impacted because Berkshire runs
through his-prOperty. He gave history of his development site, .saying the costs of
designating B6rkshire through to his property will have a financial impact on his
'developmentin- the form of lost lots, paving and grading. He also felt it would
have a negative-aesthetic impact on his subdivision because of the overpass
coming 'into ~his subdivision. He cited points raised in the staff report at arriving
at staff's position in:not supporting the proposal, saying staff questions the validity
of the traffic reports which they presented. The issues raised he said were not
researched With his traffic engineer, at which time they found that things which
were felt to be left out were included. This traffic indicates there is a minuscule
amount of traffic inCrease.on South "H" Street, Panama, Hosking and Wible
Roads. Regarding the staff report comment that the proposal is inconsistent with
goals and policies of the 'Circulation Element of the 2010 'Plan he said these are
conclusions which are not based on specifics. He felt their proposal is not an
unreasonable development, is consistent with the Circulation` Element and he did
not feel the additional circulation mitigation is necessary.
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- Pflblic portion of the hearing was closed.
. Commissioner Powers stated since the traffic document was received at such a
late time he would not feel comfortable taking any action on this item, but would
like additional time to rek, iew it. Commissioner Marino agreed with th ese
commen ts.
ResPonding to a question by Commissioner Marino, Mr. Moreland said during
the time-they have. been working with this property, Berkshire being a collector
with an 0v~rcrossing Was ~never discussed. He felt possibly' the collector status
could' be past the commercial zone. He said the advantage to them for
apPlication of this-removal is a dollar figure of about $80,000 in the loss of 4-6
Maurice'Etchechury addressed-Commissioner Marino's questions giving history on
their-tract 5535, s~iying at i:the time of design they never looked at br_inging the
collector across the freeway. He said they are trying to save the financial impacts
of redesigning.
Commissioner Marino felt the numbers are not significant nor the cost of
engineering Or cC~st of improvements. Impact to the major arterials are
insignificant, however the' impact to Berkshire would be significant.
Responding to questions by Commissioner Marino, Mr. Kloepper gave an
example of a variation of collector street in the Riverlakes Ranch area. The
crossing of Berkshire and other improvements are nOt on the transportation
-impact fee funding list, but are proposed to be added. He said because this area
is a long-term project and if the Commission is considering dropping the collector
to the area where there is no crossing the opportunity for this to happen at any
time. in the-future is being-blocked. Discussion continued regarding other same
type situationsin-which collector status has been dropped.
Commissioner Marin° agreed with the applicants that there would not be a long.
term significant impact' if there is not going to be an overpass here. He stated he
would not oppose this request.
Commissioner' Rosenlieb stated she would support staff's recommendation, saying
-she did-not-feel there was any need to continue this item..
Mr. Guimarra stated there -is no certainty that an overpass would financially be
provided for and they' may end up building a wider street which dead ends into
the freeway, .having Jo-reserve land for an overpass which would not be
develoPed.- In the process they would incur 'additional costs of paving, grading
and Sidewalks. .
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12/17/92
Page 14
Commissioner Messner said he would not be ready to act on this item at this-
- hearing. 'He was. troubled by the traffic report which shows no impact, however
staff is adamant in needing an overcrossing.
Commissioner Marino asked about continuance of this item to the January 7th
meeting. The applicant was' in concurrence with this.
Motion was 'made by Commissioner Marino, seconded by Commissioner
Rosenlieb to continue this item to the regular meeting of January 7, 1993.
Motion- carried.. _ ~- '
Responding'to by Mr..Guimarra, Mr. Kloepper said staff challenges
the accuracy of their traffic saying they have found some deficiencies and
information has been received from CalTrans which also' questions the adequacy
of the report. · ._
Commission er Messner Stated he would like further elaboration of the challenges
to the traffic re at the next.hearing. Mr; Kloepper felt Mr. Gauthier's
introductory statements stated-the traffic report issues very well. The report
.covers ground floor issues. If it shows that the impacts of the proposal do not
result in degradation ofnnpacts below level of service "c" then something can be
considered~ however it should'not be the sole criteria in choosing to delete-or not
delete the coll~/ctor rOad~ -
*Break was taken at this time
PUBLIC HEARING - GPA 4-92, SEGMENT V
- Staff report was given,
-Roger Mclntosh was present representing the property owner. He Stated
agreement with staff report' and conditions of approval.
Mr. Kloepper asked that their memorandum of December 9, 1992 be included in
the Exhibit "A" conditions. Mr McIntosh stated his agreement with these
'cOnditions. -
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Public portion of the' hearing was closed.
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wasmade by cOmmissioner Cohn, secOnded by Commissioner Messner to
resolution making findings as set forth in staff report, approving the-
Negative Declaration and approving the requested LR (Low Density Residential)
land use .designation'subjeCt to conditions shown on Exhibit 'A", with the
the_pUblic Works memo dated December 9, 1992. Motion carried by
the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Andrew, Cohn, Hersh,' Marino, Messner,
- Rosenlieb, Powers
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Motion was made by Commissioner Cohn, seconded by Commissioner Messner to
adopt resOlutitn-making findings as set forth in staff report approving the
Negative Declaration and approving the requested R-1 (One Family Dwelling)
zoning district subject to conditions shown on Exhibit "A", and subject to Public
Works memo-dated December 9, 1992. Motion carried by the following roll call
vote:
AYES:
Commissioners Andrew, Cohn, Hersh, Marino, Messner,
Rosenlieb, Powers
NOES: None
'None(
9.6) PI~BLIC HEARING - GPA 4-92, SEGMENT VI
Staff report was given.
Public portion of the hearing was opened; no one spoke in opposition or favor.
Public portion of the hearing was closed.
Motion was made by:Commissioner Marino, seconded by Commissioner Andrew
to resolution making findings approving GPA 4-92, Segment VI authorizing
staff to amend City 2010 Land Use Map consistent with County changes as
ihdicated in Table 1, and recommend same to the City Council.-~ Motion carried
by the g roll call vote:
Minutes, PC, 12/17/92
AYES:
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Commissioners Andrew, Cohn, Hersh, Marino, Messner,
Rosenlieb, Powers
NOES: None
10.
ABSENT: Nont..
GENERAL PLAN CONSISTENCY FINDING - TO FIND A PROPOSED
HIGH SCHOOL SITE CONSISTENT' WITH THE 2010 GENERAL PLAN
Staff report was given ....
No in oppositiOn or ~n favor of this item:
Commissionei~- Messner felt the County addressed the pockets of hazardous
very well with ~osed mitigatiOn. He asked why a condition of
mitigation was not placed on this item. Mr. Grady responded saying this is simply
a consistency finding; the decision is limited to a decision of whether this item is
consistent with the general plan.. The State would place requirements on this site
regarding' the school site. 'Commissioner Messner asked if a finding can be made
for'mitigation in this case. Mr: Grady said some language could be included in
the motion .that the commission would find this consistent as long as the
mitigation recommended was- of the project. Commissioner Messner felt this
was- a
Responding to questions by Commissioner Hersh, Mr. Gauthier said all old land
use sites must go th¥ough a'process to be closed. Commissioner Hersh said his
concern was that after the school is constructed that the asphalt would have to be
torn. out placing a great deal of dust in the air.
'Commissioner Marino said-the report states there will be an insignificant risk if
the county performs the Work recommended which is either two feet of natural
dirt imported to the 'top of the site or asphalt.
Dennis Scott, Kern High School District, spoke saying the Commission should
have received-correspondence from the County which stated they would perform
all mitigation prior to construction. Commissioner Marino stated the letter
indicated the writer would recommend to the Board of Supervisor's that they
appropriate funds for mitigation, the Commission nor the high school 'district is in
control of this. · Mr. Scott said if the mitigation was not performed they would not
begin construction.
Messner felt the asphalt cap was the appropriate mitigation, stating
he was satisfied that public health would be protected with this route.
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' Commissioner Rosenlieb asked if a provision of mitigation, could be added to the
motion, Ms. Marino stated it could be stated that this item' is consistent with the
general plan as long as mitigation is provided.
Motion-was made by-Commissioner Rosenlieb to find the proposed high school
#4-site consistent with the: Metropolitan Bakersfield 2010-General Plan as to its
location, purpose and extent as required by Government Code Section 65402 (c),
the soilcontamination from adjoining site is~fully mitigated prior to the
-- school site becoming occupied.
Messner asked if Commissioner Rosenlieb Would 'be comfortable
referencing the December 14, 1992 letter by the County. Commissioner
Rosenlieb asked_if his intent was to limit this to an asphalt cap. Commissioner
Messner felt-it shouldbe clear that fully mitigated means in accordance with the
December.-14, 1992 memo.
r Rosenlieb amended her motion to include a definition of fully.
mitigated ~being per the December 14; 1992 letter from the County Waste
Management De'
C0mmiss~oner Messner seconded the motion which carried~
lIa) COMMISSION RECONSIDERATION OF REFERRAL OF DRIVF;
THROUGH SERVICES ORDINANCE TO COMMITTEE
Commissioner Powers stated he had decided to abstain from any further
discussion on this issue-and would not vote on it. He said 'this item will be heard
when it comes back-from committee review with the neighbors and the industry-
by the-zoning committee. 'He appointed Commissioner Cohn as the chair of this
committee' for this issue only.
Commissioner Cohn stated his concern over this issue is that there be an' element
of fairne,, ' however he did' not suggest there was not fairness in how the previous
committee looked at it. He stated he appreciated Chairman Powers appointing
him-to the d agreed with his intent of trying to avoid any
appearance of impropriety on the commission's part. He stated his concern that
the public feel thattheir views Would begiven consideration. He said he wished
to dispel the possible feeling that he felt there was some impropriety. He felt
there may have been a mlsperception by some, however felt that the necessary
steps have been taken:to clear that up.
Commissioner Messner stated he felt the appointment and Chairman Powers
abstention was the right .thing to do.
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Commissioner Marino stated he was on the previous committee which looked at
this ordinance, he said the intent was to bring forth an ordinance that would
make it difficult to circumvent the conditional use permit process. He said he
was. not comfortable with the perceived conflict which has been raised by'those
who have not even seen the ordinance. He felt this issue has been blown out of
proportiom He.' req Chairman Powers remove him from the committee
and replace him with someone else, stat. lng he would rather not deal with it at
this time and would-like to determine before the next hearing whether he has a
conflict of interest. He said in grey areas it has been left to the individual
commissioner to make their own judgement call, stating his disappointment in the
handling of this situation. He again asked that he be replaced on the committee
with another commissioner. Commissioner Powers stated Commissioner Andrew
is the :alternate for the committee.
Commissioner Hersh said what needs to be considered is service-to the Public and
that'.their - should be strongly taken into account. He welcomed the
change that came about in this situation, because he felt the public's perception
was tainted and felt it was-up to the commission to change this perception. He
stated he felt the-suggested moves are appropriate.
12.
Responding to a question by Commissioner Rosenlieb, Chairman Powers stated
the Zoning be made up of Commissioners cohn, Hersh and
Andrew. .
COMMUNICATIONS
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Written .
Mr.' Grady cited a litter received by Mr. Nickels, which was distributed to
Commission, asking for direction by the commission.' Chairman
Powers stated it would be appropriate to refer this item to staff for
response.
B) Verbal
None.
COMMISSION COMMENTS
None
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Commission, meeting was
adjOurned at 9:00 p.m.
Laurie' Davis
Recording Secretary