HomeMy WebLinkAbout10/15/92MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
" OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF BAKERSFIELD
Held ThurSday, October 15, 1992, 5:30 p.m., City Council Chamber, City Hall, 1501
Truxtun Avenue, Bakersfield, California.
1. ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS:
Present:
Absent:
DARREN POWERS, Acting
Chairperson
JEFF ANDREW
JIM MARINO
STEVE MESSNER
KATE ROSENLIEB
C. ROBERT FRAPWELL, Alternate
DAVID COHN
ADVISORY MEMBERS: Present:
LAURA MARINO, Assistant City
Attorney
FRED KLOEPPER,.Assistant Public
Works Director
DENNIS FIDLER, Assistant Building
Director
STAFF: Present:
JACK HARDISTY, Planning Director
JIM MOVIUS, Principal Planner
MARC GAUTHIER, Principal Planner
JIM EGGERT, Principal Planner
MIKE LEE, Associate Planner
LAURIE DAVIS, Recording Secretary
PUBLIC STATEMENTS
Thomas DeNatale submitted a speaker's card and addressed the commission
saying he would like to speak on item #10.2 regarding U.R.M. buildings saying he
-filled out a speaker's card because it was not indicated to be a public hearing on
the agenda. Mr. Hardisty recommended that Mr. DeNatale's comments be taken
at the time this item is heard on the agenda.
Chairman read the notice of right to appeal as set forth on the agenda.
Minutes, PC, 10/15/92
3. PRESENTATION TO COMMISSIONER ANDERSON
Page 2
Chairman Powers presented a plaque to Commissioner Anderson in appreciation
for his service as a commissioner. Commissioner Anderson stated his enjoyment
of serving' on the Commission.
Commissioner Rosenlieb thanked Commissioner Anderson for his dedicated
service to the city, stating he had performed an extraordinary job, and she would
miss him greatly.
C°mmissioner MarinO stated he would miss Commissioner Anderson's insight
into projects which came before the Commission.
FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS - PCD 4808 (OLIVE GARDEN
RESTAURANT)
Staff report was given.
Richard Escalante represented the applicant. Responding to questions by
Commissioner Rosenlieb, he stated in reading the new conditions, he would
-rather not have a sidewalk from the corner and is hoping to extend the sidewalk
on the corner onto the new access road which he pointed out on the map.
Commissioner Rosenlieb was concerned about pedestrian access to this restaurant
from the mall. CommissiOner Powers stated his support for staff's revised motion.
Commissioner Andrew agreed with comments made by Commissioner Rosenlieb,
saying he felt staff's revised recommendation would enhance the site.
Mr. Hardisty said access may have to be in a switch-back form.
Commissioner Marino was concerned about the possibility of creating_a larger
problem with the requirement.
Commissioner FraPwell said rather than giving staff the responsibility of
approving pedestrian access possibly something could be recommended that
would he would give the developer greater leeway he would be agreeable to it.
Responding to a question by Commissioner Rosenlieb, Mr. Escalante was not
agreeable to a continuance.
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Page 3
Motion was made by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded. by Commissioner
Marino to make findings set forth in the staff report, and approve final
development plans for the Olive Garden restaurant (building pad "C") of P.C.D.
4808, subject to the conditions listed in Exhibit "A" of the staff report and add
Condition No. 8 as written in the-Planning Director's memo, dated October 13,
1992 with the additional language added to the end of Condition #8 of the memo
as .follows:-
unless otherwise determined by staff. If determined by staff that this
condition is not feasible, the applicant's proposal of .extending the sidewalk
from New Market ,-Way around on Mall View and into the site's access
Would be an ~ acceptable alternative.
Mr. Hardisty said this language would work, however staff would be guided by
state requirements for sidewalks.
Commissioner Rosenlieb clarified for the applicant that the commission would
prefer the sidewalk'be exactly the way it is written in the staff report, however if
this is onerous staff has-some leeway to accept an alternative.
Motion carried.
5.1) PUBLIC HEARING - EXTENSION OF TIME - TENTATIVE TRACT 5144
(REVISED)
Staff report was given.
Commissioner Marino abstained on this item due to a conflict of interest in that
he is employed by the applicant.
Public portion of the hearing was opened; no one spoke in opposition.
Fred Alba was present representing the applicant and property owner. He stated
his agreement with the staff report.
Public portion of the hearing was closed.
Motion Was made by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner -
Frapwell to approve'a one-year extension of time for Tentative Tract 5144
(Revised) subject to the Conditions set forth in the Exhibit "A". Motion carried.
Commissioner Marino was absent due to an abstention.
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5.2) PUBLIC HEARING - EXTENSION OF TIME - TENTATIVE TRACT 5301
Staff report was given.
Public portion of the hearing was opened.
Robert Geringer spoke stating he represents the owners of the oil and gas lease
on the 80 acre Portion adjacent to Morning Drive. Responding to comments in
the staff report, he Stated~ the wells have not been abandoned and aggressive
steaming operations are being undertaken to increase production on them. He
said Currently litigation exists in the Federal District court to defend an attempt
to terminate the oil and gas lease. He asked on behalf of the oil and gas
operators that the extensi°n be denied.
Andrew Haut, Attorney rePresenting the applicant, spoke citing litigation in
federal 'court. The purpose being to determine whether the lease has been
terminated.' :
Frank Reina spoke saying the powerlines are not an easement. Negotiations are
still being made to accommodate the request of the tentative tract apprOVal. He
stated they have no opposition to a multi-use trail as requested by residents in the
neighborhood, nor would he have a problem with being part of the assessment
district. He cited copies of correspondence from Jaco oil who is an oil operator
in the area, saying they agreed to abandon the property. He said there is no oil
to be extracted from this property. He aSked. for time to prove that there is no
oil._ He submitted copies of the correspondence.
Wiley Hughes Said they are trying to connect Morning Drive to subject site.
Responding to questions b~ Commissioner Marino, Mr. Reina said they have a
will-serve letter with California Water Service Company and Public Works has
approved their subdivision. Mr. Kloepper said it was determined there is
adequate capacity on a temporary basis from the existing pumping system at
Morning Drive and Panorama.
Commissioner Marino said:he would be inclined to grant the appliCant's request
for an extension of time.
Responding to a question by Commissioner Andrew, Mr. Haut felt the lawsuit
would be resolved in 8-9 months. Regarding the mineral lease aspect of the
lawsuit if it is deemed that oil does not exist, the mineral interest lease would be
terminated. He felt possibly because a lawsuit is still pending, this tract could be
extended for another year in order to see the outcome of it.
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Commissioner. Messner asked questions of-Mr.-Geringer, to which he replied if
Mr. Reina prevails-in the lawsuit it would not give them rights to the surface of
the property, it wOuld .revert to the federal government. He felt the lawsuit could
go beyond the 8-9 month period as cited by Mr. Haut. He also answered
questions regarding wells saying a number exist, above and below the ground
steam lines.
Responding to questions iby Commissioner Messner, Mr. Hardisty said because of
-the adopted oii'well ordinance, different types of conditions Of approval would be
required for this subdivision. He said the same position would be taken with this
tract When it was originally proposed which is to deny it because staff does not
feel subdivisions should be developed in active oil fields. HOwever, if faced with
the situation of having to make the two work together, he felt the proponent of
develoPment should be burdened with the need to protect future residences from
exposures to noise, disturbances and traffic on'local streets. Commissioner
Messner felt potential impacts exist in this type of situation. He said he would
follow staff's recommendation to deny this extension of time.
Commissioner Rosenlieb ~said she voted for this subdivision with the idea that the
wells would be abandoned immediately, however has regretted her decision. She
~oncurred with Commissioner Messner's statements.
Mr. Hardisty responded fo a question by Commissioner Marino, saying this is a
Class 3 oilfield. The oil well ordinance exempts the Kern Bluff, Kern River, a
small portion Of Fruitval¢ and a small portion for a period of time of the Canfield
Ranch .oilfield from restrictions normally associated with drilling in an urban
setting.
Robert Geringer resPonded to questions by Commissioner Marino saying there
are 55 wells on subject property and the adjacent 360 acres and between 10-15 on
the 80 acre parcel in addition to above ground steam lines and accessories. Three
Wells are currently pumping with steaming operations to commence around
November-December.
Commissioner Marino felt the Kern Bluff oilfield is a barrier to development in
the northeast. He said he would like to see development encouraged through this
field.
Mr. Reina said ther~ is no oil in this oilfield and asked for the chance to prove it.
Commissioner Powers felt if this were brought before the commission' at this time
as a new project it would not be approved. He felt this would be a key to
development in the northeast saying he is willing to give the applicant a one-year
extension.
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6.1)
Page 6
Commissioner Rosenliel5 said she was influenced on this development because she
wanted to encourage growth in the northeast and still does, however she felt a
responsibility to ensure the growth is adequately controlled in a safe environment.
She felt it was irresponsible to extend this map. If the situation is cleared up in
the future the applicant can reapply. The money he has spent has not been in
vain.
Commissioner Messner did not feel this project should be .pushed forward just
because it was once approved. He did not feel this project was appropriate in the
first place. He felt the commission should allow the applicant to resolve the
litigation and the commission should get out of the middle of it.
Commissioner Frapwell said he would be willing to extend this approval for one
year, however at the endi of the time if the situation has not change a different
action needs to be considered.
Motion was made by Commissioner Marino, seconded by Commissioner Frapwell
to approve a one-year extension of time for Tentative Tract 5301. Motion
carried. Commissioners Rosenlieb and Messner voted no.
PUBLIC HEARING - TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 9874
Commissioner Powers stated conflicts of interest on Agenda Item #'s 6.1 and 6.2,
turning the chair over to Commissioner Messner.
Staff report was given.
Public portion of the hearing was opened; no one spoke in opposition.
Carl Moreland represented the applicant, stating his agreement with the staff
report.
Responding to concerns about this tract being approved over an abandoned oil
well, Commissioner Messner felt single well sites are generally not an issue.
Motion was made by Commissioner Frapwell, seconded bY Commissioner Andrew
to .approve Proposed Tentative Parcel Map 9874 subject to the conditions set
forth in the Exhibit attached to the staff report. Motion carried. Commissioner
Powers Was absent due to an abstention.
Minutes, PC, t0/15/92
6.2)
PUBLIC HEARING - TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 9875
Staff report was given.
public portion of the hearing was opened; no one spoke in opposition.
Carl Moreland represented the applicant.
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7.1)i
Public' portion of the heating was closed.
Motion was made bY commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner
Marino to make all findings set forth in the staff report, and to approve Proposed
Tentative Parcel Map 9875 subject to the conditionS outlined in the Exhibit "A"
attached-to the staff report. Motion carried. Commissioner Powers was absent
due to an abstention. ~
PUBLIC HEARING - TENTATIVE TRACT 5620
COmmissioner Marino abStained on this item due to a conflict of interest in that
he is employed by the applicant.
- COmmissioner Andrew abstained on item #'s 7.1 and 7.2 because he has received
commissions from propertY owners within 300 feet during the last year.
Staff report was waiVed.
7.2)
Motion was made .by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by CommissiOner
Messner to hear item #'s 7.1 and 7.2 concUrrently. Motion carried.
PUBLIC HEARING - TENTATIVE TRACT 5621
Public portion of the hearings was opened; no one spoke in opposition or in
favor.
Fred Alba represented the applicant, asking for continuance.
Motion was made by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner
Messner to continue these items to the next regular meeting of November 5,
1992. Motion carried. CommiSsioners Marino and Andrew were absent due to
abstentions.
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7.3)
PUBLIC HEARING - TENTATIVE TRACT 5552
Commissioner Powers abstained due to a conflict of interest.
Staff report was given.
Chairman Messner stated staff's recommendation to continue this item to the next
regular meeting of November 5, 1992.
Public portion of the 'hearing was opened; no one spoke in opposition.
Motion was made by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner
Frapwell to continue thi~ item to the next regularly scheduled Planning
Commission meeting to allow staff the opportunity to review the map redesign
and prepare a staff report. Motion carried. Commissioner Powers was absent
due to an abstention.
PUBLIC HEARING - CALLOWAY SPECIFIC PLAN LINE
Page 8
Staff report was given.
Public portion of the hearing was opened.
Bill Cooper spoke representing the Kern River Parkway Committee and BESA
Committee. 'He said they were not necessarily in opposition to this specific plan,
however wish to d0wnplay the impact of this eventual 6-lane road. He asked the
Commission to direct staff to look at a straight path under the bridge for the bike
path. He also stated they do not want the bike path to go into the habitat area
any further. He was not :agreeable to the comment regarding expense' of
landscaping along the embankment, saying he felt it would have an extensive
impact on the habitat, feeling anything that would mitigate the impact of the
vehicle trips would help immensely. He said he had not seen any property
purchased with HCP funds, even though they were assured some of this money
would go into this Kern River Corridor. He asked the commission to direct staff
to conduct a study of riparian areas in the immediate area of the project which
could be purchased for mitigation.
Responding to questions by Commissioner Rosenlieb, Mr. Cooper said they
would like the angles and turns in the bike path to be eliminated. Mr. Hardisty
said some tight kinks exist in the bike path approaching the east side of the
Coffee Road bridge which staff is aware of and is working on an adjustment to
the alignment in order to smooth this out.
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Sherry 'Parker asked if this goes through behind their property, what will happen
to Calloway as it exists. She asked about access to her property. Mr. Kloepper
responded saYing the possible cul-de-sac on Calloway is not definite, however the
property owners would have input into this. He said through traffic would not
exist; however they would be provided access both to Calloway and Brimhall. She
said the map shows that she would have to go through the subdivision with her
horses. Mr. Kloepper said the city will have to work with the owner of the
property and owners of other properties to come up with suitable access to her
property.
Responding to questions by Commissioner Rosenlieb, Mr.-Kloepper outlined the
connection to the properties in the area.
Roger McIntosh clarified Phase 2 of Tentative Tract 5386 allows for full and
continued access from Ca~lloway into Brimhall. If this specific plan alignment is
adopted Calloway would become a local street and they would have planned
circulation through the su,bdivision back to Brimhall, with plans to extend local
streets to Calloway to-allow for points of access on Brimhall and Calloway.
_ Regarding a question by Ms. Parker regarding equestrian access, Commissioner
Rosenlieb asked if there is any way they can get to the Kern River through' their
properties. Mr; McIntosh said at this point the only access is back to Coffee or
through Allen Road.
Lorraine Unger represenfed the Sierra Club and submitted a letter regarding this
project. She felt the Call0way bridge would have a great impact on the natural
environment in the area. She said parking area is needed south of the canal,
north of Stockdale Highway and felt a possibility of purchasing land exists. She
also felt another mitigation measure may be to provide water to the major
Cottonwood trees. She felt the idea of replacement trees was a good one and
that possibility_ those which do not survive should be replanted. Commissioner
Rosenlieb cited an added mitigation measure which addresses this issue. Ms.
Unger stated she felt this adequately addresses the issue of replacement trees.
She was also concerned about the reseeding of flowers and plants in the area,
saying she felt the money could be better spent in other areas. She was also
concerned about the lighting into the area and possibly muffiing~of it.
David Gay spoke saying they are developing in the area, and because this project
has been put off for many years he has noticed considerable impacts to the traffic.
He said the residents in the area are looking forward to the implementation of
this project and asked the Commission to allow it to go forward.
Public portion of the hearing was closed.
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Responding to a question by Commissioner Powers, Mr. Gauthier said the only
area which needs to be mitigated is where the pylons impact the river bottom.
Commissioner poWers said! this crossing has been planned for quite some time.
RespOnding to a question by Commissioner Rosenlieb, Mr. Kloepper said no
lights are anticipated on this bridge, however provisions will be made for future
lighting in the event of necessity due to development. However it may never be
necessary because it crosses undevelopable area from the Cross Valley Canal to
the bike path. Responding.to a question by Commissioner Rosenlieb regarding
placement of concrete rip irap, Mr. Kloepper said this will be considered with the
2081 permit from the Department of Fish and Game. Commissioner Rosenlieb
was concerned 'about the aesthetics of this. Commissioner Powers was agreeable
to-these comments, saying:he felt the dumping of broken concrete along the
banks of 'the Kern River Would be detrimental to its appeal. Mr. Kloepper said
specific specifications wou,ld have to be met in order to use broken concrete.
Commissioner Rosenlieb questioned the automatic irrigation asking if it is the
intent that'it be temporary irrigation, which would either be abandoned or
removed at the end of 5 years. Mr. Kloepper said it would be more practical just
to stop using th~ system. Commissioner Rosenlieb asked regarding the
maintenance of plants for a period of 5 years, who could request the early
termination of maintenance, Mr. Gauthier replied the city could request this
through the Department 'of Fish and Game.
Commissioner Rosenlieb stated she felt staff had done a great job on this project,
however wanted a. condition placed on it to prohibit broken cOncrete rip rap and
that condition #17 be worded so that it is understood that water irrigation is
temporary. She 'felt the following wording could be added to Condition #17:
"Subject to the maintenance period as specified in Condition #20."
COmmissioner Messner said the Department of Fish and Game's concern is that
the Kit Fox have paths that they can wind through. They are comfortable with
the Kit Fox'S ability to maneuver through concrete rip rap. He said he was
uncomfortable precluding the use of it.
ResPonding to questions.by Commissioner Marino, Mr. Kloepper said this will be
a flat slab bridge supported similarly to the one on Stockdale Highway. The
public will have ample opportunity to review plans before they are. sent out to bid.
Discussion continued regarding the use of HCP funds.
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Commissioner AndreTM thanked those speaking, saying he felt staff has made a
great attempt at trying to appease everyone. Regarding the use of boulders as
opposed to concrete rip rap he said in order to do this they would have to be
taken from other' ar6as which would create more noise and pollution and possibly
ruin another area. ' - - ,
Responding to a question :by-Commissioner Rosenlieb,'Mr. Cooper felt the use of
rip rap is unsightly and unsafe. DiscussiOn continued regarding materials used in
other areas. Mr. Kloepper felt the broken concrete is a waste product which
could be used and would not affect another area, as it would if boulders were
taken from it.
Chairman Powers asked for some "either/or" language on the use of concrete rip
rap or boulders. Commissioner Messner felt what is being proposed is a good
compromise. '
Motion was made by Commissioner Mhrino, seconded by Commissioner Andrew
-to adopt resolutiOn making findings approving the Negative Declaration with
mitigation 'measures listed :in the amended Exhibit "A" dated October 15, 1992,
and approving the Calloway Specific Plan Line with the following lchanges:
Measure #17 shall read as follows:
Automatic water irrligation shall be provided for all tree and shrub species,
along the BESA reYegetation area, as shown in Figure 5, as specified in
Measure #20. . ~
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An additional Condition #20 to read as follows:
When conceptual plans are developed .the Public Works Department shall
call a meeting with' the Planning Commission Trails Committee and the
Kern River Parkway Committee to review them and refer them back to the
full'commission.
Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Andrew, Frapwell, Marino, Messner,
Rosenlieb, Powers
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
Commissioner Cohn
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9. PUBLIC HEARING -- ZONE CHANGE #5365 -- APPLICATION BY CITY
OF BAKERSFIELD TO AMEND THE ZONING BOUNDARIES FROM A C-
2 (COMMERCIAL) ZONE TO AN R~3 (LIMITED MULTIPLE FAMILY
DWELLING) ZONE ON 4.63 ACRES AND R-3 (LIMITED MULTIPLE
FAMILY DWELLING) TO C-2 (COMMERCIAL) OVER 1.7 ACRES FOR
PROPERTY LOCATED.ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF STINE ROAD
AND BELLE TERRACE.
Commiss_ioner Andrew abstained due to a conflict of interesi in that he markets
properties and receives commissions from property owners within 300 feet of
subject property.
Chairman Powers gave a committee report on this project. He said the
committee recommendation is that the C-2 zoning be approved to R-3 leaving the
area shown to be rezoned R-3 to C-2 at the same time requesting that staff place
the GPA 3~92 on the next agenda for reconsideration.
Public portion of the hearing was opened; no one spoke in opPosition or in favor.
Public portion of the hearing was closed.
Responding to a question by Mr: Hardisty, Commissioner Rosenlieb said the
committee would!ike to withdraw the previous recommendation.
Commissioner Marino' s~ted he would not support the committee report because
the R-3 zoning is on top iof a canal and is unusual zoning which could be used for
Commercial or used for apartments, however no construction of apartments could
take place,
Motion was made by cOmmissioner Rosenlieb to adopt resolution making
findings approving the Negative Declaration and approving that portion of Zone
Change #5365, consisting of an amendment to Chapter 17' of the Bakersfield
Municipal Code for C-2 (Regional Commercial) to R-3 (Limited Multiple Family
Dwelling) on 4.63 acres and recommend same to City Council.
ReSponding to a question by Commissioner Messner regarding the possibility of
this i~em being cleaned up when an applicant brings forth a project,
Commissioner Rosenlieb said there is no appropriate way to handle this situation,
hOwever some conditions in terms of setbacks and landscaping could be added to
reduce impacts.
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Page 13
Commissioner Messner said he was comfortable deferring cleanup on this issue
and going with the committee's recommendation. He therefore seconded
CommiSsioner Rosenlieb's motion.
MotiOn carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES: commissioners Frapwell, Messner, Rosenlieb, Powers
NOES: Commissioner Marino
ABSENT:~ Commissioners Andrew, Cohn
SPECIAL COMMITI'EE AND STAFF REPORTS - AMENDMENT OF THE
10.2
CITY'S IMPLEMENTATION PROCEDURES OF CEQA
Staff report was given.
Responding to a questiorf~ by Commissioner Messner, Mr. Eggert stated with
respect to economic impacts, additions were made referencing the State CEQA
guidelines clarifying the issue in terms of when a decision-making body is
reviewing an EIR that there is discretion in requiring economic studies if it is
pertinent as part of the project review.
Commissioner Rosenlieb !stated she is pleased with the final results of this
recommendation.
Motion was made by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner·
Messner to forward the proposed CEQA implementation procedures to the City
Council for adoption. Motion carried.
SPECIAL COMMITTEE AND STAFF REPORTS - REPORT TO CITY
COUNCIL REGARDING PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO GRANT
NONCONFORMING STATUS TO REPLACEMENT OF U.R.M. BUILDINGS
Commissioner Powers abstained due to a conflict of interest. He relinquished the
chair to Commissioner Messner.
Commissioner Andrew abstained due to a conflict of interest in that he owns
property within 300 feet of buildings on the URM list.
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Page 14
Mr. Hardisty gave staff report on this issue. He stated this matter was discussed
and brought to a conclusion at the last hearing, normally he would prepare a
fairly direct memorandum to the City Council expressing the Commission's
recommendations, however he felt it may be important for the Commission to
confirm their intent. He stated he brought back the report that he would have
submitted to the Council.'
Mr. DeNatale, having previously requested to speak, addressed the Commission.
He stated he represented the Downtown Business and Property Owner's
ASsociation. He stated he had read the report stating his concerns saying he did
not feel the characterization of staff's recommended ordinance as the City
Council's proposal is accurate. As a result of meetings he attended, staff was
directed to propose ordinances on various other issues, subject ordinance being
the first of those ordinances. He did not feel it is, therefore, accurate to say that
staff's proposal is also the City Council's proposal.
Responding to a question by Commissioner Messner, Mr. Hardisty said this was-
the Council's referral to the Commission as a result of the Urban Development
Committee's report and .recommendation, thereby changing the word "proposal"
to "referral." Mr. DeNatale stated for the record that he still was in disagreement
with this.
Mr. DeNatale said in-the Second paragraph under the heading "issue" it is
indicated the Downtown Business and Property Owner's Association's comments
are specific to the downtown area, which he said is not necessarily the case. He
said they also represent URM owners who are outside the downtown area. Their
proposal was meant to take into account all URM buildings. This report
indicates certain opinions held by the Commission, specifically the Commission's
opinion that the City Council has already considered various options and reached
a compromiSe when Seismic Ordinances were adopted. He said it is correct to
say a compromise was reached on the due date for the seismic reports with the
other, issues being referred to staff for preparation of appropriate ordinances.
Regarding the indication that it was the intent of the Council to receive a basic
city-wide ordinance, leaving negotiation for special consideration of the downtown
area to the CDDA, he stated he was not sure this was Council's intent. He stated
he also attended-the sub-committee meeting saying it appeared that the
commission's theme throughout the meetings is that the issue came to the
Commission cold. They felt after the first meeting that the commission was going
fonvard with their intent to receive input from other sources and scheduling a
joint meeting with the commission sub-committee and the Council's Urban
Development committee which did not take place. He felt possibly a meeting
with the other bodies to discuss this issue would be appropriate rather than
sending this along to the Council without a recommendation.
Minutes, PC, 10/15/92
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Discussion continued regarding the procedure for this. Mr. Hardisty said a signal
should be sent to the Council as to the Planning Commission's recommendation,
stating he understood the Commission's confusion on what their purview would
be~ Mr. Hardisty outlined the options which Council has regarding this issue.
Commissioner Rosenlieb stated her feeling of staff manipulation on this issue.
She said the proposed report to City Council does not mention the motion made
at the last hearing or how it was arrived at. She felt it states what staff felt the
Commission meant to say not what was really said.
Commissioner Marino agreed with Commissioner Rosenlieb's comments, however
stated he saw an advantage in staff saving the commission from their previous
motion.
Mr. DeNatale felt.this commission should obtain the information necessary in
order to make a recommendation to the Council.
Commissioner Marino asked if the Commission would be interested in sending
the committee members along with the report and meeting with the downtown
property owners to the meeting of October 29, 1992 with the Urban Development
Committee along with a letter to the committee informing them it would be
placed on their agenda.
Commissioner Rosenlieb ~aid it appears this has already been acted upon and it
was the recommendation ~his be sent back to the full council.
Mr. Hardisty cited the mOtion and discussion from the minutes of the previous
meeting.
Commissioner Rosenlieb made the motion, seconded by Commissioner Marino
that subject report be sent to the Council with the following changes:
Page 2, between item #4 and item labelled "Issue" a sentence be added as
follows:
The Joint Council/Commission committee met on September 24,
1992 with only the Planning Commission portion of the committee
present.
She said in the conclusion' portion under the part which states "the Planning
Commission has reviewed both the," she would like it to say "Urban Development
Committee's referral," etc.~ She asked for a report back from staff at the next
meeting regarding Council's response to the Commission's recommendation.
Minutes, PC, 10/15/92 ' Page 16'
Commissioner Messner stated he is comfortable with the suggested changes by
Commissioner Rosenlieb and her agreement with the report.
Motion carried.
11.
12.
ELECTION OF INTERIM OFFICERS
Motion was made by Commissioner Marino, seconded by Commissioner
Rosenlieb to appoint Commissioner Powers as interim Chairperson. Motion
carried. Motion was made by Commissioner Marino, seconded by Commissioner
Frapwell to appoint_ Commissioner Messner as Vice-Chairperson. Motion carried.
COMMUNICATIONS
13.
A) Written
B)
Mr. Hardisty cited a request from Riverlakes to amend the requirements
on their linear park along Coffee Road. He suggested this be referred to a
con~mittee to be worked out.
Responding to questions by Commissioner Rosenlieb, Mr. Hardisty said
this item should be finished by the end of the year.
Chairman'Powers-referred this item to the Parks and Environmental
'Quality Committee.
Verbal
Commissioner Anderson requested copies of the apProved maps when
extensions of time fare placed on the agenda. Mr. Hardisty said
procedurally a copy of minutes and staff report from the previous case
would be placed in the staff report in the case of extensions of time.
COMMISSION COMMENTS
Commissioner Rosenlieb :cited a copy of correspondence to the Commission from
Cou ncilmember Edward from League of California Cities. She also cited the
schedule of funds available for park acquisition and development submitted to the
Commission.
Minutes, PC, 10/15/92 ~' '- Page 17
Commissioner Rosenlieb:~ asked if the Urban Development Committee has as a
part of their meeting for :the-end of October changes to the subdivision ordinance.
Mr. Hardisty said it is 0d the next council agenda for adoption. Responding to
questions by Commissioner Rosenlieb, Mr. Hardisty said a provision was added
for an additional degree Of latitude to be able to grant a 5% variance on 5% of
the lots due to shape of parcels, good subdivision design, meeting the intent of
the ordinance, 'etc. Commissioner. Rosenlieb said she would like to pick up a
copy of the information sent to the Council, to which Mr. Hardisty agreed.
Commissioner Marin° asked that a copy be sent to all Commissioners.
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Responding to a question; by Commissioner Marino, Mr. Kloepper gave status on
the curb cut located at the center on the corner of White Lane and Gosford
ROad. saying plans had been submitted for improvements of the median and they
are proceeding with them'.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Commission, meeting was
adjOurned at 8:37 p.m.
Laurie Davis
Recording Secretary
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