HomeMy WebLinkAbout09/16/93MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF BAKERSFIELD
Held Thursday, September 16, 1993, 5:30 p.m., City Council Chamber, City Hall, 1501
' Truxtun Avenue, Bakersfield, California.
1. ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONERS:
Present:
DARREN POWERS, Chairperson
STEVE MESSNER, Vice Chairperson
JEFF ANDREW.
DOUG DELGADO
KENNETH HERSH
JIM MARINO
KATE ROSENLIEB
BILL SLOCUMB, Alternate
ADVISORY MEMBERS: Present:
LAURA MARINO, Assistant City
Attorney
FRED KLOEPPER, Assistant Public
Works Director
DENNIS FIDLER, Building Director
STAFF: Present:
JACK HARDISTY, Planning Director
JIM MOVIUS, Principal Planner
MARC GAUTHIER, Principal Planner
JIM EGGERT, Principal Planner
MIKE LEE, Associate Planner
LAURIE DAVIS, Recording Secretary
2. PUBLIC STATEMENTS
No one made any public statements at this time.
Chairman read the notice of right to appeal as set forth on the agenda.
3. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
There were no consent agenda items.
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GPA 3-93, SEGMENT III AND ZONE CHANGE #5497
Staff report was given.
Ms. Marino, City Attorney, clarified the negative declaration would have to be
readverfised and recirculated in order to bring this back at the next hearing for a
change of designation. She recommended any continuance be to the next cycle.
Responding to questions by Commissioner Slocumb, Mr. Hardisty said those
items to be changed to E .could be brought back at the next cycle to be changed
to R-1.
Public portion of the hearing was opened.
Steve Hartsell, Schools Legal Service, represented Kern High School District and
Panama-Buena Vista School District. He stated a letter was submitted from Kern
High School District. Commissioner Messner clarified a letter had also been
received from Panama-Buena Vista School District. He said he was not prepared
to comment on this project because he is waiting for the action by the County
Board of Supervisors regarding a zone change which is part of this proposed
annexation. He stated in speaking with the applicant his understanding is that
they are willing to request~ a two-week continuance in order to sort this out.
Brad Wheelan spoke stating the majority of the property in this general plan
amendment is in the city. i He pointed out the properties on the map for the
Commission. He said the schools do not want to recognize this as legitimate
zoning because the county handles zoning matters differently. He said he would
be agreeable to a continuance to the next meeting in order to meet with the
school district~ :
Chairman Messner asked for legal opinion for the next hearing, should this item
be continued to that time, Ms. Marino said the county's action appears to be
final and as such the zoning would be complete.
Salomon Martinez, Jr. spoke saying he is co-applicant with Brad Wheelan stating
his concurrence with Mr. Wheelan's statements.
Public portion of the hearing was closed.
Mr. Martinez responded to question by Commissioner Slocumb saying he would
like to see this item continued.
Motion was made by Commissioner Slocumb, seconded by Commissioner Andrew
to continue this item to the next regularly scheduled meeting. Motion carried.
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GPA 3-93, SEGMENT IV AND ZONE CHANGE #5499
Staff report was given.
Public portion of the hearing was opene&
Michael Hafferman,. resident of the area, stated his petition includes addresses of
those signing. He felt the downsizing of lot sizes in the area is contrary to the
character of the Rosedale community. He cited the 2010 Plan saying these types
of knee-jerk zone changes were to be eliminated. He said those buying in this
area wanted large lots and felt the rezoning would be a mistake. This type of
character needs to be preserved.
Jim Brown stated his opposition to the city allowing this density, stating the
dreams of those in the area would be washed away. He asked about the
possibility of changing the 300-foot noticing requirement. Mr. Hardisty said this
is a standard out of state law, however the city could change ordinances regarding
this issue if it chose to do. so. He responded to a questions by Commissioner
Rosenlieb saying there is also a notice published in the newspaper.. A study was
accomplished on this in the past which quadruples the cost of notification, stating
after review council took no action on the issue.
Dennis Scott, Kern High School District stated they had submitted
correspondence to the City stating this project may have an impact on the need
for school facilities.
Reinhard Suchsland, resident on Birchhaven, stated large lots exist around the'
area. He did not feel this change of zone would benefit the neighborhood.
Sharon Brown spoke saying she felt Bakersfield is a special city and did not want
it to turn into a situation which exists in Los Angeles. She wanted to know where
the Commission would draw the line. She felt a low density area needs to exist in
the city.
Gordon Porter, 11600 ?inehaven, stated he had been a resident for 5-1/2 years
and is opposed to the downsizing of the lots, stating he hoped the city would
preserve this area.
King Vaughn, resident of '~he area, stated his opposition to this proposal.
Chris Rajlal, 11301 Pinehaven stated he concurred with comments of the previous
speakers.
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Steve Ratty, resident of Birchaven, stated he can see the proposed tract.
stated his concern about downsizing because of other undeveloped areas
surrounding them and the possibility of a precedent-setting effect.
He
Carl Moreland represented the applicant. He Said the general plan has always
shown this area as SR up to 10,000 square foot lots. He said subject area is not
in the middle of the previous speakers neighborhood. He said this map was
designed in relation to other uses in the area and did not feel it would impact
those residents in the areA. He said the true neighbors are in favor of this
project. ~
Public portion of the heating was closed.
Commissioner Rosenlieb Said she did not feel all of Rosedale should be preserved
for large lot subdivisions, however felt the community as a whole should have a
mix of housing densities. She said she would not support this request because she
felt this change is unnecessary and inconsistent with the area.
Commissioner Marino stated his inclination to support this request because he
felt it is tucked in and the lots are not small and the alternative that it could be
developed in the county on septic tanks.
Commissioner Slocumb agreed with previous comments regarding the large
sections in the city with small lots, stating there are few sections with larger lots.
Motion was made by Commissioner Slocumb, seconded by Commissioner
Rosenlieb to adopt resoluition making findings as set forth in the staff report
approving the Negative Declaration and denying the General Plan Amendment 3-
93, Segment IV as requested from SR (Suburban Residential with a condition of
18,000 square foot lot sizes) to SR (Suburban Residential - < 4 dwelling units per
net acre) on seven acres, subject to mitigation listed on Exhibit "A" and
recommend same to City Council.
Commissioner Hersh cited the previous approval of this site for 18,000 square
foot lot sizes, saying he felt the proposal is not congruous with the community.
He thanked those speaking on this issue.
Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Delgado, Hersh, Rosenlieb, Slocumb,
Messner
NOES:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Andrew, Marino
Commissioner Powers
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MOtion was made by Commissioner Sl°cumb, seconded by Commissioner
Rosenlieb to adopt resolUtion making findings as set forth in staff report
approving the Negative Declaration and denying Prezoning No. 5499 as requested
from R-1 with a condition that lot sizes be 18,000 square feet minimum to E
(Estate) zone on seven acres, subject to mitigation listed on Exhibit "A" and
recommend same to City ~:Council. Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Delgado, Hersh, Rosenlieb, Slocumb,
Mess~ner
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NOES:
Commissioners Andrew, Marino
ABSENT: Commissioner Powers
GPA 3-93, SEGMENT V AND ZONE CHANGE #5493
Staff report was given.
Public portion of the hea~ing was opened.
steve Hartsell represented Kern High School District and Panama-Buena Vista
School District. He said it was their understanding a condition had been added
to address concerns raised by them.
Jeff Williams spoke in favor. Regarding Planning Condition #4 he said they plan
to ask for waiver of park fees at the tentative map stage because they will be
providing a private park. iHe.said it was staff's suggestion that the following
wording be added to this Condition: "in accordance with Municipal Code Section
15.80." Mr. Hardisty stated agreement with this. Regarding Public Works
Department condition #7~ he said Mountain Vista Drive is already installed, and
felt this conditiOn could be removed. Mr. Kloepper said he would like the option
of requiring the expanded! intersections. Regarding Condition #9, he said they
would be disposing of water on-site in the private park, asking that language be
added to allow this at the tentative map stage if approved by staff. He suggested
the following wording be added to the end: "unless alternative means of disposal
are approved by the city staff at tentative map stage." Mr. Kloepper felt possibly
the second sentence be clarified so that it state that no additional city-maintained
drainage basins be allowed for the GPA area adding another sentence as follows:
"other alternative disposal subject to approval of the director of public works may
be allowed."
Public portion of the hearing was closed.
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CommisSioner Rosenlieb noted the conclusion of the staff report was incorrect
where it states the requested LR land use designation and R-1 zoning district will
create less impacts. She felt the R-1 district will create a greater impact than
agricultural, but that impact is negligible or fully mitigated.
Motion was made by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner
Slocumb to adopt resolutign making findings as set forth in the staff report
approving the Negative Declaration and approving the requested LR (Low
Density Residential) land use designation, subject to conditions listed in Exhibit
"A", and recommend same to City Council, with the following changes:
Exhibit "A", condition #4ithe following shall be added to the end of condition:
in accordance with '~ Municipal Code 15.80.
Exhibit "A", Condition #9 of Public Works conditions shall be amended by
changing the last sentence to read as follows:
No additional city-maintained drainage basins will be allowed for the GPA
area. Other alternative disposal methods may be allowed and would be
subject to the Public Works Director's approval.
Motion carried by the foll.'Owing roll call vote:
AYES:
Commissioners Andrew, Delgado, Hersh, Marino, Rosenlieb,
Slocu:mb, Messner
NOES: None
ABSENT:
Commissioner Powers
Motion was made by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner
Marino to adopt resolution making findings as set forth in staff report approving
the Negative Declaration and approving the requested R-1 (One Family
Dwelling) Zone, subject to conditions listed in Exhibit "A", and recommend same
to City Council, with changes made to Exhibit "A" in the previous motion.
Motion carried by the follOwing roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Andrew, Delgado, Hersh, Marino, Rosenlieb,
Slocumb, Messner
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
Commissioner Powers
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CommissionerSlocumb abstained due to a conflict of interest in that he has
represented a property owner within 300 feet within the last year.
Commissioner Andrew abStained due to a conflict of interest in that he was
involVed in the land sale to the current owner.
Staff report was given.
Public portion of the hearing was opened.
Kirk Tracy represented the Panama Center Partnership, owners of the northwest
corner of Panama and Wible Road. He stated their concurrence with the
recommendation for denial of this application, along with opposing the approval
of the negative declaration with mitigation measures. He stated their opposition
to this being that they feel these measures are conclusionary which they felt are
insufficient. They feel a concrete explanation must exist to show how these
measures will solVe the environmental impacts. There is no detailed explanation
as placement of' signals-and how two additional lanes at the off-ramp of 99 and
Panama will mitigate the Circulation problems. He felt an environmental impact
report should be required 'since there are issues which have not been mitigated.
The investors have invested a significant amount of time and effort relying on the
general plan designations, pHe said this intersection is already overly zoned by
one commercial area. He, asked that the commission not allow a strip mall
situation along Panama, asking that the application be denied.
Don Benedict stated he is :a developer of neighborhood shopping centers. He felt
this area is large enough to accommodate a neighborhood shopping center.
Chuck Murray spoke saying he is a partner of Panama Center, he asked that the
Commission deny this application.
Mike Callagy represented the applicant. He submitted maps of the project to the
Commission. He said the~function of the project would be to complete a central
commercial area for the planning area. The 2010 Plan does not encourage or
discourage the siting' of additional commercial designations within one-half mile
of existing areas. Regarding concerns voiced by staff that this not create an
environment to allow strip commercial and locating commercial on 4 corners of
an intersection he said it is the Commission's decision to modify policy as they see
fit. He gave history of this area. He said the disagreement with staff was
concerning the four corners of commercial. He stated the map he had submitted
delineated commercial centers in the general planning area. He said there are no
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commercial areas east and south of subject site and there is no possibility at
locations such as South ,'H" Street and Fairview Road. He felt this site is unique
because it is located at the intersection of two major roads and is near the
freeway interchange, He istated the impacts of these designations with regard to
traffic impacts has been studied by a traffic engineer and it was found that they
can be mitigated to a level of insignificance. He pointed out proposed areas
which may be used for cOmmercial citing problems.
Mr. Gargano said he felt the planning process cannot be based on attempting to
resolve all problems which arise. The 38-acre parcel can no longer be considered
as an area for a shopping!center to house major drug and grocery stores. He said
they. tried to alleviate ConCerns by eliminating the apartment complex. Regarding
the traffic concerns he stated they had a traffic study prepared. He cited the 2010
Plan saying it promotes the encouragement of separation of commercial by one-
half mile, however does nOt say that it should be prevented. He also cited the
statement which says that .clustering of commercial should be encouraged. He
stated there are numerous property owners in favor of this request. He said he
has been told by adjoining property owners that they felt their property values
would increase.
Mr. Callagy cited a similar request approved by the CommissiOn in June of 1992
being the lack of an appropriate sized vacant commercial site close to this
intersection being the basis for approval. He said the situation has not changed
except that there are fewer commercial parcels in the area available for this type
of use. ~
Public portion of the hearing was closed.
Commissioner Marino stated he supported the previous project for commercial on
this site. He felt the lack of shopping facilities in the area is problematic and
there is a larger marketing area. He said he did not see the grocery stores
located north Of the industrial strip as being in this neighborhood.
Commissioner Hersh felt the question is whether the commission allows four
corners of general commercial, stating he has a problem with this. The
Commission has been sensitive about placing supermarkets or large commercial
centers Cl°se together. His concern was whether the commercial centers would
be able to survive in competition with each other with the same type of motif and
makeup. He stated his other concern with traffic, saying 30 years from now the
transportation situation will be the same. He said he could not support this
commercial area.
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Commissioner Messner felt he led the way for approval on this property because
he agreed with the argument that the 9-acre site was not viable for a shopping
center. He said he is no longer willing to make this exception. He stated he
would not support the Prtject.
commissioner Rosenlieb Concurred with statements made.
Motion was made by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner Hersh
to adopt resolution making findings as set forth in staff report approving the
Negative Declaration with mitigation as shown in Exhibit "A", and denying the
requested General Plan Amendment 3-93, Segment VI to GC 12.1 +/- acres and
recommend same to City Council.
Commissioner Delgado stated the project located at Wilson and Real Roads
impacted his thinking in this situation and stated he concurred with the motion.
Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Delgado, Hersh, Rosenlieb, Messner
NOES: Commissioner Marino
ABSENT:
CommiSsioner Andrew, Powers, Slocumb
Motion was made CommiSsioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner Hersh to
adopt resolution making findings as set forth in staff report approving the
Negative Declaration with mitigation as shown in Exhibit "A", and denying Zone
Change No. 5494 to C-2 on 12.1 +/- acres, and recommend same to City Council.
Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES:
Commissioners Delgado, Hersh, Rosenlieb, Messner
NOES:-
Commissioner Marino
ABSENT:
Commissioner Andrew, Powers, Slocumb
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Staff report was given.
Public portion of the hearing was opened; no one spoke in opposition.
'Don Judkins spoke saying he is the-applicant and was the owner of the property
when this was rezoned for commercial. He stated regarding Public Works
Condition #5 he has already met this condition. Mr. Kloepper referenced a
September 13, 1.993 memo stating this condition is deleted, however it should
reference Condition #5 instead of Condition #2. Regarding Condition #2 of
Planning Department conditions he said this is a principal issue since when the 80
acres was developed it was graded and compacted including this parcel. He said
they intend to resubmit the original improvement plans. Mr. Hardisty was
agreeable to deletion of this condition.
Public portion of the hearing was closed.
Motion was made by Commissioner Marino, seconded by Commissioner Hersh to
adopt resolution making findings, as set forth in staff report, approving the
Negative Declaration and approving GPA 3-93, Segment VII, subject to
mitigation and conditions listed in Exhibit "A", consisting of an amendment to the
Land Use Element from a GC (General Commercial) land use designation to an
LR (Low Density Residential) designation on 5.14 acres located at the northeast
corner of Ashe and Harri~ Roads, and recommend same to City Council, with the
deletion of Planning Department Mitigation Measure #2 and Public Works
Department Mitigation Measure #5.
CommisSioner Rosenlieb Stated she asked for deletion of the archaeological study
because she felt as Mr. Judkins does.
Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Andrew, Delgado, Hersh, Marino, Rosenlieb,
Slocumb, Messner
None
Commissioner Powers
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Motion was made by Commissioner Marino, seconded by Commissioner Hersh to
adopt resolution making findings as set forth in staff report approving the
Negative Declaration and! approving Zone Change No. 5498, subject to mitigation
and conditions listed in Exhibit "A", consisting of an amendment to the Municipal
Code from a C-1 (Neighborhood Commercial) zone to an R-1 (One Family
Dwelling) zone on 5.14 acres located at the northeast corner of Ashe and Harris
Roads and recommend same to City Council, with deletion of the same mitigation
measures deleted as in the previous general plan amendment motion. Motion
carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES:
Commissioners Andrew, Delgado, Hersh, Marino, Rosenlieb,
Slocumb, Messner
NOES: None
o
ABSENT:
Commissioner Powers
COMMUNICATIONS
A) Written
Mr. Hardisty stated an invitation had been given to the Commission from
the City Manager for a workshop scheduled with the City Council to
discuss planning issues and conduct of meetings. He asked for a motion to
set a special meeting in order for the Commission to attend this.
Motion was made by Commissioner Slocumb, seconded by Commissioner
Marino for a special meeting on October 6, 1993. Motion carried.
B) Verbal
None
COMMISSION COMMENTS
Commissioner Slocumb aSked the Attorney's Office to prepare a memo for .the
Commission setting forth the parameters of public comment section on the
agenda, specifically what can take place during this section and to what extent the
members of the commission can interact with members of the public.
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Commissioner Rosenlieb asked for an item to be placed on the next agenda which
would allow for discussion regarding whether the commission wishes to continue
allowing single family detached housing in the R-2 zone in the same way in which
it is being done now, (i.e., no amenities required as for a PUD or optional
design).
A. Committees
1) General Plan
No new information.
2) Zoning Ordinance
Commissioner Hersh stated a meeting had been held on
September 15, 1993 discussing proposed setback changes and
revisions on the PUD chapter and PCD chapter, stating a
copy would be submitted to the Commission. There will be a
review by staff to streamline these two zones.
3) Sign Ordinance
No new information.
4)
5)
Subdivision and Public Services
No new information.
Trailg and Ways
No new information.
6) Parks4 and Environmental Quali .ty Act
No new information.
7) Joint Council/Planning Commission
No new information.
Commissioner Marino said he attended a workshop to work on the agenda for
the 1994 Planners Institute stating he had submitted the first draft to the
Commission.
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Responding to a question. by Commissioner Hersh, Mr. Hardisty said he would
provide the advisory notice of the MBHCP to him.
8. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Commission, meeting was
adjourned at 9:25 p.m.
Laurie Davis
Recording Secretary
Planning Directorf
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4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion was made by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner
Slocumb to approve the minutes of the special meeting of July 12, 1993, the
regular meeting of July 15, 1993, the pre-meeting of August 2, 1993 and the
regular meeting of August 5, 1993. Motion carried.
Chairman Powers said due to the fact he was not present at the Monday pre-
meeting he would turn the chair over to Vice-Chairman Messner.
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GPA 3-93, SEGMENT I AND ZONE CHANGE #5491
Staff report was given.
Commissioner Marino abstained due to a conflict of interest in that he is
employed by the applicant.
Public portion of the hearing was opened.
Steve Hartsell spoke repre"senting Kern High School District and Fruitvale School
District. He said a letter had been submitted to the City Attorney which he asked
be made part of the record. He said it is their understanding these applications
will reduce the housing density in the project area, therefore they feel there is no
significant impact. If however, there would be a change increasing the density
they would feel that there is a significant impact on school facilities.
Responding to questions, Mr. Gauthier said all impacts within the Riverlakes
Specific Plan were calculated on land use and not the zoning. This project would
reduce the overall density ~by 300 units.
Steve DeBranch represented the applicant. He stated their concurrence with the
staff report with the understanding that condition #3 of Planning conditions be
deleted. He stated the Riverlakes project has an agreement with the two
elementary districts and with the understanding of Mr. Hartsell's letter they feel
there is no reason to impose a condition on the project regarding school fees.
Mr. Hardisty agreed with the deletion, referring to the mitigation agreement.
Mr. DeBranch gave history of their involvement in this area. He submitted
illustrations of the area. He said there is a lacking of this type of development in
the northwest area. A ten,tative tract map is in progress which addresses the
project.
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Responding to questions by Commissioner Hersh, Mr. Gauthier said all tracts on
the plat submitted by Mr.i DeBranch have been heard with the eXception of one.
George Shader, Marketing Consultant for Riverlakes Ranch, stated they
supported these applicati°ns because he felt a market existed in the community
for this type of home.
Hugh Pearson said this project would allow for quality affordable housing.
Chris Hayden stated he isa small builder and will be involved in this project. He
stated his concurrence with previous comments and asked that the commission
support it. ~
Public portion of the hea~ing was closed.
Responding to a question by Commissioner Rosenlieb, Mr. Gauthier said the
average density was used in calculating the impact of the project. Commissioner
Rosenlieb said she cannot find any indication that this project is consistent with
the intent of the specific plan. She was concerned about the numerous requests
for smaller than required lot sizes, stating she is ready to draw the line at this
time. She was also concerned that amenities are not provided to help compensate
for the reduction in lot sizes. Mr. Hardisty said this application is to determine if
the proposed distribution is better than that proposed by the original plan. He
said the direction of the commission should be to look toward the balanced needs
of the community over a long period of time, and at times the ebb and flow of
market should be taken into consideration.
Commissioner Rosenlieb stated she saw no trade-off to give the applicant this
amount of LR zoning, with smaller lots.
Responding to questions by Commissioner Slocumb, Mr. Hardisty said the
proposal for smaller lots will be in the form of a subdivision and will not contain
additional amenities.
Mr. DeBranch answered questions by Commissioner Slocumb regarding the
justification for smaller lot sizes, saying the type of product they will be providing
does not exist in the northwest area. He said they will be providing a quality
product.
Responding to a question by Commissioner Slocumb, Mr. Quon, Building
Department representative confirmed that the building department would issue
permits on the zoning without regard to the general plan designation. He felt the
reality is that the density will be increased in the area.
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Mr. HardiSty said the specific plan modifies the rules of the zoning and general
plan and would not allow building permits to be issued in excess of 10 units per
acre.
Mr. DeBranch clarified they are taking advantage of setbacks and variances
through the R-2 zoning with this type of single family project.
Commissioner Slocumb c~ted his opposition to a similar lot size situation at the
last hearing, stating he did not feel he could be conSistent if he handled this
situation differently.
Chairman Messner cited the fact that there is no net increase in density with
respect to the specific plan, stating he is comfortable with this.
Commissioner Rosenlieb Said she had no problem with this type of project in a
higher density designation, however she is not willing to allow 33 acres of LR.
She said she would not be opposed to this type of project, however would like this
33 acres to remain R-1.
Chairman Messner felt if a problem exists it needs to be corrected within the
system and it would be unfair to single out this applicant, when similar situations
have been allowed for other applicants.
Commissioner Andrew felt the amount of units would be reduced for the overall
area. He felt the market needs must also be taken into consideration. He felt
this is a good project offering a variety of products, stating his support of it.
Responding to a request for information by Commissioner Delgado, Chris
Hayden said the homes on these lots will range from 1,134 to 2,000 square feet.
He said there is no difference between the appeal on these size lots than homes
built on larger lots. The same types materials and design will be used.
Commissioner Delgado agreed with Commissioner Rosenlieb's comments
regarding drawing the line on smaller lots, saying he did not know where that
point should be.
Chairman Messner felt drawing the line is more appropriately achieved through
ordinance changes, rather than singling out applicants.
Commissioner Hersh felt the Commission is to determine what is right for the
community. He stated his concern about the large numbers of requests for 5,000
square foot lots. He said the Commission should decide where this ends, giving
the building community this direction. He said he would not be in favor of
allowing 5,000 square foOt lots on LR designated property unless some very
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justifiable amenities are provided. He was concerned about a 2,000 square foot
home on a 5,000 square foot lot because of problems such as vegetation. He said
he was not agreeable to the LR, however was amenable to the HR, LMR and
MC to LMR.
Commissioner Andrew felt the Commission must look at other scenarios in other
cities in which most of the property is constructed under high density and there is
no affordable housing.
Motion was made by Commissioner Andrew to adopt resolution as set forth in
the staff report approving the Negative Declaration and approving the requested
Low Medium Density Residential land use designation, subject to the conditions
listed in the Exhibit "A'! and recommend the same to the City Council with the
deletion of Planning Department Condition #3 and removal of Finding #9.
Motion died for lack of second.
Motion was made by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner Hersh
to adopt resolution making findings as set forth in the staff report approving the
Negative Declaration and ':disapproving the requested General Plan Amendment
with the finding that it is not consistent with the General Plan.
Responding to a qUestion by Chairman Messner, Mr. Hardisty said if the
Commission wished to do so, this item could be continued until the next hearing
'without causing any problems for the balance of the cycle.
Commissioner Rosenlieb Said she would be agreeable to continuing this item to
the next cycle. 'Mr. BergqUist stated his opposition to this.
Motion carried by the follOwing roll
AYES: Commissioners
call vote:
Delgado, Hersh, Rosenlieb, Slocumb
NOES:
commissioners Andrew, Messner
ABSENT:
Commissioners Marino, Powers
Motion was made by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner
Slocumb to adopt resolution making findings as set forth in the staff report
approving the Negative Declaration and disapproving the requested Specific Plan
Amendment with the finding that it is not consistent with the Specific Plan.
Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
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AYES:
NOES:
Commissioners
Commissioners
Delgado, Hersh, Rosenlieb, Slocumb
Andrew, Messner
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ABSENT:
Commissioners Marino, Powers
Motion was made by Commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner
Slocumb to adopt resolution making findings as set forth in the staff report,
approving the Negative Declaration and disapproving the requested Zone Change.
Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES:
Commissioners Delgado, Hersh, Rosenlieb, Slocumb
NOES:
Commissioners Andrew, Messner
ABSENT:
Commissioners Marino, Powers
Commissioner Slocumb stated a fax had been received from this applicant on this
issue and he wanted to make it a part of the record.
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GPA 3-93, SEGMENT II,AND ZONE CHANGE #5492
Chailxnan Messner stated a request had been received from the applicant to
continue this item to the next general plan cycle.
Staff report was waived.
Public portion of the hearing was opened; no one spoke in opposition.
Craig Lynch represented the applicant and requested that this be continued to the
next cycle due to a change in ownership of the property.
Motion was made by commissioner Rosenlieb, seconded by Commissioner
Marino to continue this item to the December 16, 1993 meeting. Motion carried.
*5-minute break was taken at this time.