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PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
Regular Meeting October
Council Chambers, City Hall; 1501 Truxtun Avenue
1. ROLL CALL:
Present; Commissioners: Bloche r, Johnson, Andrews, McGinnis, Stanley, Tragish
Absent: Commissioner: T ac
2. PLEDGE of ALLEGIANCE.
3. PUBLIC STATEMENTS.
Mr. Moreno stated that he will wait to speak until item 5.2 is heard. Mr. Franzen stated that he will wait
until the item he wishes to speak on is heard. Olivia Franzen stated that she will also wait until the item
she wishes to speak on is heard.
4. CONSENT CALENDAR:
.1 Non-Public Hearing Items
Approval l of minutes for Planning Commission regular meetings of September 6, 2007 and
September 20, 200T
Commissioner Tragish referenced the September 20, 2007 minutes at the 6th paragraph down,
seventh sentence starting with "Commissioner Tra ish asked Staff to respond...", and requested
that it be corrected to read as follows: "Commissioner Tra ish asked Staff to respond to the
notation that the E Il , General Plan and Zoning are not tied together for approval-
Commissioner Johnson referenced the September lox 2007, page 3, second paragraph, first line,
in between the last two words on the last line, `the, public," and 'requested the insertion of the
acronym "SJ PC " for San Joaquin Valley Air Pollution control District. Commissioner
Johnson further referenced page 4, the second to last paragraph, second line, first word,, stating
ER should be crossed out of"commisioner and should read: "He was not on the Commission."
He also referenced page 9, sixth paragraph ph down, with the sentence that reads; "in addition, it
provides special permits that are under their tern called Tape Permits " which should read Take
Permits.
Commissioner McGinnis moved, seconded by Commissioner Andrews, to approve the amended
consent: non-public Dearing items.
Motion carried by group vote.
Public Hearing Items
4.2a Agjgroval of Extension of Time Vesting Tentative Tract Ma 6347 (Porter-Robertson)
4.2b rova of Zone Change 06-1698(Adavco, Inc.)
4.2c AoDroval of Vesting Tentative Far a Ma 11 758,(JP/CP Development, Inc.
4.2d Aoproval of Tentative Parcel MaI2 11614(Wiley D. Hughes, Surveying)
4.2e A2Rroval of Vesting Tentative Tract Ma Smit T oh1 SA, Inc.)
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4.2f ARRro vaI of'i e t r Tentative Tract Ma 1 (Pinnacle civil Engineering, Inc.)
The public hearing is opened, no one from the public or the Commission requested
removal of any consent agenda item. The public hearing is closed.
Commissioner Andrews moved, seconded by Commissioner McGinnis, to approve the
Consent agenda items.
Motion ar�irr�o sly carried by the following roll call vote;
AYES: Commissioners:ers: lockley, Johnson, Stanley, McGinnis, Andrews, Tra ish
DOES: lone
,ABSENT: Commissioner:issioner: Tkac
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS—Zone chap a flannel Development Review
5.1 Zone change -114,9 Can no n &Associates)
5.1 b Planned DeveloRment Review 07-1658 (cannon &Associates)
The public hearing is opened, staff report giver. Blain Franzen stated he lives directly east of this
planned development on Via Rosa. He stated he does not know of a development like this
across from a high school. He stated that the development does not seen to take into account
the kids that will be using this center and kids are bound to congregate in the alley by the walls.
He suggested redesigning the alley so that the delivery trucks could deliver in between the
buildings and installing electronic gates so that only delivery vehicles are alleged in the back. Mr.
Franzen stated that the other problem is employees taking heir breaks in the parking lot and
playing music loudly from their cars.
Maria Lourdes Niggle stated that she lives at 11409 Westerharn court, which is caddy corner to
the project. She explains that she has a daughter that attends Stockdale High School and is
concerned about the traffic and what she feels is unnecessary commercial use.
Phillip Niggle stated the previous speaker was his wife and he also lives at 11409 Westerha
Court and feels that if anything should be eliminated in this project it should be the drive thru's as
they are not required and it will help eliminate additional traffic. He also stated that there is not
another high school anywhere in the city that has such a project directly across the street from it.
Olivia Franzen stated that she lives with her father and states that pollution is her focus and that
this project will increase it.
Jason Monroe stated that he lives at 3500 Via Eglicia and is one street over from the center and
started that this project would provide young people j
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additional landscape buffering, planting trees as barriers and providing a sound wall and at
deoibals is well below the limits that the City requires at the property line. The developer has
located the drive-thru's at the perimeter of the project, by the street side, as far array from
residents as possible and where the general traffic would be driving. Mr. Smith pointed out that
over the last several years the city has seen extensive residential development and yet hasn't
had the influx of commercial centers to support that past growth of residential.
Commissioner Blockley closed the public hearing. Commissioner Johnson thanked all the
neighbors that came out to speak and stated that he is a Stokdale High graduate and this issue
has hit close to home. Commissioner Johnson asked staff if the current zoning is C-1, staff
responded affirmatively. He asked what types of use C-1 allows, to which staff responded that a
lot of the uses that are in the proposed center would be allowed in a C-1 with the exception of the
drive-thru's and onsite sale of alcohol. Commissioner Johnson pointed out that the C-1
designation is described as neighborhood commercial, where C-2 zoning is described as
regional commercial and the uses under C-1 would be a good fit for the area. Commissioner
Johnson stated that on site sales of alcohol is not in the best interest of the high school students
across the street and stated he cannot support a C-2 zoning.
Commissioner Traish stated as he understands this project there are 5 buildings, 2 fast food
restaurants with drive-thru's, a Starbucks with drive-thr , a Walgreens with drive-thru, a grocery
store and possibly a restaurant. When looking at zoning he looks at the accelerated uses of
going from C-'l to C-2 and usually looks at the impact on the circulation, traffic, its compatibility
and generally things that have to do with the health, welfare and safety of the area.
Commissioner Tra ish stated that the proximity of this shopping center to the high school given
all the ingress and egress going on with the drive-thru's does somewhat give hire pause for
concern, regarding the accelerated traffic going on at the corner and the -turns out of the school
to get into the center and the recently approved shopping center on the southwest corner which
will provide services as well. He also has concerns about the hours of the Wal-Mart and that the
loading and unloading is proposed from Sam to 10prn and in reading comments and hearing the
applicants representative he still feels there will be problems with noise and will not be
compatible with the surrounding neighborhood. Commissioner Tra ish stated that the city has
paced itself with these regional shopping centers and has been successful at it however he
doesn't feel it belongs with what is already present in the area and is inappropriate.
Commissioner Tra ish asked staff if a shopping center has more than 90,000 s .ft. do they have
to do an economic decay study or is it if one of the buildings exceeds 90,000 s . ft. Staff
responded that it Is 90,000 s .ft. for a single building that has non-taxable items up to 20%
Commissioner Traish stated that he doesn't feel it is appropriate because it is a very intense
use and will create a significant impact on the circulation and traffic in the area and feels it will be
an attractive nuisance for the school and he agrees with Comm issioner Johnson about the onsite
liquor sales and will not be able to support the project at this point.
Commissioner McGinnis asked the representative for Cannon & Associates, Mr. Smith, if the
vacuum area would be on the southwest corner of the project. Mr. Smith pointed to the area on
the overhead and Commissioner McGinnis also asked what the flow of traffic through that was.
Mark Russel, the architect for the project, stated that, for the car wash, the traffic coming onto the
site would make a right and the traffic goes counter clockwise, the landscape area is adjacent to
Buena vista, the fire lane width would be 20 feet but the applicant has made the fire lane 30 feet
with an 11 foot ,mechanical room buffer and the car wash tunnel is where there are no houses.
The entrance of the carwash is where the cars stop and is under a canopy so there will be no
night lighting disturbing the neighbors, this point is 20 feet across a landscape buffer away from
the closest house and there is a double lane to prevent any stacking of cars. The sound study
recom mended, unlike any of the other five carwashes in town, includes a 10 foot tall, 30 foot lend
sound gall so that blower noise would be deflected out as the cars exit the tunnel} there is a
foot structure that runs the entire width serving as a buffer from the closest houses.
Commissioner McGinnis asked how far array the area being described is from the nearest
house. Mr. Kassel responded that the parking stalls under the covered canopy are 100 feet
away from the property line and the car wash building has no windows and no doors out toward
the houses. Commissioner McGinnis voiced concerns about the proximity of the highs school to
this project and asked if there would be an attendant on duty to which Mr. Smith responded
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affirmatively. Commissioner McGinnis asked staff if there was another project similar to this
close to a highs school or in a residential neighborhood, staff responded that there is a car wash
next to a neighborhood at the southwest corner of Brimhall and Calloway with no complaints thus
far. Commissioner McGinnis stated that staff has explained that there is not another regional
shopping center within 1 mile of this project and ghat concerns him is that the structure is going
in at the intersection of two arterials and with 5 different business operating with drive-thru's it
could prove to be a traffic nightmare. Where the drive thru's are there is going to be a traffic
signal to help smooth the flow of the traffic and maintain the traffic circulation. Commissioner
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McGinnis asked where the 2 fast food restaurants are proposed to be and Torn Carslla, the
co-owner, co-developer of the project, stated that the 2 fast food restaurants will be n either
side of the signal. Commissioner McGinnis stated that he doesn't see the need for a drive-thru
Starbuc s and would like to see a limitation on the number of accesses to the project as far as
the drive in drive out situation. Mr. Carr solla stated that Starb c s is currently only putting in
new sites with drive thru#s and Walgreens is the same way. Mr. Caroslla wanted to respond to
one of Commissioner Tra ish's comments about this being a strip center, he stated that he
doesn't see this project as such but a center that is diversified with no plans for on-site alcohol
and the main businesses all need their drive thr 's. Commissioner Mc ainnis asked Mr.
ar s lla where the alcohol will be coring from, to which Mr. Caros lia responded that there
could be no on site consumption but the grocery store would be selling alcohol for off site
consumption. Commissioner McGinnis expressed his concerns about the loading hours as far
as the trucks go for deliveries and would like to see it be a little more restricted particularly at the
yarn hour.
Commissioner Andrews asked staff if there were any additional environmental reviews regarding
p ollution, staff responded that since this was not a study that created a significant enough
additional traffic over the existing C-1 designation the amount of traffic and pollution is
considered in our General plan modeling overall so because there is not a significant increase in
the traffic over the existing designation they didn't do a traffic study which would man that it
mould not expect to be a significant increase in the air pollution. Commissioner Andrews asked
staff if there was any additional information with respect to what is being proposed on the vacant
land across to the vest, part of the west hying project. Staff replied that the environmental
impact report for the west Ming project considered build out of this area including this particular
project as far as traffic and all types of impacts and it will be a Castle & Cooke smart gro wth type
of development that was represented in the General Plan.
Commissioner Blockley commented that these concerns will not go away and appreciates the
time and effort into mitigating the noise around the perimeter of the project} He stated that the
big concern is traffic, not only vehicle traffic but pedestrian as Drell, from the high school to the
site and it seems life a strain on the credibility to make this whole thing Friable=
Commissioner Johnson asked staff when the zoning is considered if the property owner
establishes a right with it, to which staff responded once the General Elan designations and the
zoning are on site, yes they have the ability to develop the project under those uses.
Commissioner Johnson asked that in the future if the owner sells the property and some tenants
lave the center do they still have the right to do on site alcohol salts, staff responded under the
C-2 in connection with the food service they can do on site sale of alcohol, it is an incidental to
the food service use of the property. Commissioner sioner Johnson stated he cannot support alcohol
sales across from a high school.
Commissioner Traish stated he heard another Commissioner ask about the environmental
impact report and for this particular project it is stated that we look to the vest Min
environmental report for this area and it anticipates traffic that will be generated and the one
thing he grants to distinguish is that the environmental impact report, be it this one or any others,
in the area is based on supposition and available information and he doesn't feel that this report
took into consideration the configuration of this particular shopping center which is what's in front
of the Commission today in regards to it#s ingress, it's egress and it's pass through shopping and
it's drive thru's. He also commented that staff stated that there was one other car wash located
in a residential neighborhood and there is a flurry of oar washes in this city and he doesn't know
of any of theca that are in a residential neighborhood which indicates it is not something
advisable.
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Commissioner Stanley inquired if there is a way if they change the zone to C-2 to limit the
on-
site alcohol sales, to which staff responded they would not encourage the Planning Commission
to put such a condition on this project because typically in C-2 it could be considered as the
treating of this developer differently with this C-2 zone than other developers. staff
recommended that the applicant make such a proposal. Commissioner Stanley started he has a
concern with the loading hours and would support this project if they looked at moving it to a
m leading tire. He stated that he believes in mined uses in our community and believes that
some of these things can be protected even with the high school in the area.
Staff added that there was an air quality study done for this by WZI, who determined that existing
requ irements from the APCD were already less than significant. Staff also painted out that the
C-I zone that underlies this does net have a PCD overlay se the Planning Commission gill not
see the design under a C-1.
Commissioner Andrews asked if there was a discussion of how students were gathered on
amps and was something that was taken into consideration in terms of students migrating
across the intersection during the day and school hears, staff responded that it was net
considered and was not aware of any other information regarding this.
Commissioner Blockley asked staff to vhawt extent would this project come back before a future
Commission under the PCD over ley provisions, staff responded that the applicant is asking for
C-2 with a PCD over lay and is asking for approval of the preliminary development plan tonight
and if it is changed significantly in the future then they would have to return to the Commission.
It does allow staff to approve some miner changes to the design or the location of buildings then
it comes back as a report to the Commission and those are the one"s that are received and flied
or they core back through with a new CD plan, Commissioner to kley asked if a business
ceases operation after it's built and it attempts at a later date to add a restaurant with on site
liquor would that matter be handled as a building department ratter to which staff responded
affirmatively it would be a tenant infillt Commissioner Blockley asked Mr. Caroseli r if he had
anything to add to the presentation already given and Mr. Carros lla responded no and offered
deed restricting the project from on site alcohol and offered eliminating one of the fast food pads.
Commissioner McGinnis asked staff ff they could give an example of the different uses that are
proposed in this parcel that are not allowed under C- , staff responded that the drive thru lanes
for the restaurant, grocery stores and large retail centers. Commissioner McGinnis confirmed
that this project will have 2 drive-thr #s, a drive thru Starbuoks and a car wash, staff replied in the
affirmative. Commissioner McGinnis asked Mr. Carosella ff a continuance right help to which
he said yes and a two creek continuance was requested.
Commissioner McGinnis stated that he would look to a two week continuance. staff responded
that a two week continuance would be good, and inquired what the Planning Commission would
direct staff` to do during that two week continuance. Commissioner McGinnis replied that he
thinks the major concerns are 1 the alcohol, 2 traffic flow; and 3 noise and/or pollution.
Staff inquired if the applicant was suggesting to limit the number of fast food restaurants, car the
number of fast food restaurants with drive-thru's, to which Commissioner McGinnis replied that
was his understanding.
Commissioner Johnson stated that he is prepared to make a motion for continuance with the
caveat that the applicant should keep the name"Mustang Square."
Commissioner Johnson moved, seconded by Commissioner Andrews, to continue zone change
06-1149 and planned development review -1 558 for two weeks.
Motion unanimously carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES} Commissioners: Blockley, Johnson,son, Stanley, McGinnis, Andrews, Tra ish
NOES: None
SENTO Commissioner:er: Tka
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5.2 Zone change 7-1 (Marino&Associates)
Staff report given. Commissioner Blockley pointed out that the hearing on this item is closed and
acknowledged that Mr. Moreno had filled out a speaker card, Commissioner Johnson stated that
he would like to give Mr. Moreno a few minutes to express his concerns. Mr. Moreno reminded
the Commission that this is a request to bring the zoning into consistency with the General Plan,
which the property owner relied on when he purchased the property. He explained that the zone
change is a necessary prelude to annexation of the property. Mr. Moreno pointed out that the
October 17, 2007 memo that he was given this evening is not acceptable in that the cost of doing
the things outlined is prohibitive, is patently unfair, and financially kills the project. Mr. Moreno
questioned whether the Commissioner would have to find that the General Plan is inconsistent
with orderly development. He requested, as an alternative, to accept a condition that no building
permits on the light industrial only may be issued for a year prior to November 1,200 8.
Commissioner Tragish commented that he had hoped to address the traffic concerns in this
area. Commissioner Tragish inquired of Mr. Moreno as to the appropriateness of having the
property zoned from A to M-1 and instead why it isn't hieing zoned M-1 along the tract's and
asked about correspondence received from Carrol Bender. hart Moreno responded that the M-1
zone along hlageman is 700 to Soo ft.from the end of the runway where the mosquito abatement
is pointing out that staff would not support their proposal of a mobile home park and wanted to
keep in non-residential. Cdr. Moreno went on to say that with respect to the residential which
should probably be industrial, may take care of itself because there is a condition that with the
tract reap submittal the applicant also has to submit a noise study and based on his past
experience it may not be possible to buffer the noise even with a 10' wall. He pointed out that
they just want to start the process of annexation, which requires a zone change. commissioner
Tragish further asked about the traffic impacts along Hagernan. Mr. Moreno responded there is
no dedication on the south side of Flageman the project would widen it and there may be a traffic
signal at Allen load. There are 3 alternative designs for the over crossing one of which will
swing Allen load to the west, north of Hagernan load and the thought was there would be some
kind of upgrade to the transportation element. Commissioner Tragish commented that Allen
Road and Santa Fe load, going north, has always been a problem and does not want to see it
get worse. Commissioner Tragish asked staff if the condition added through the October 1 Ith
memo was added because they thought it would alleviate the traffic situation before any more
developments are built, staff responded affirmatively.
Commissioner Stanley asked staff when the original General Plan use designations were set for
these two pieces, staff responded that they were established in the county.
Commissioner Johnson stated that he feels the condition on the memo from October 17, 2007 is
adequate because if they are annexed into the city the traffic impact fees are going to go to the
city side of the line that being the ease it's premature to approve this without making sure that the
light and separation of grade are in place to ensure that the traffic is mitigated. leading this
condition it's not requiring the applicant to pay for the whole project it is saying if you want to do
your project before the grade of separation and before the light is in you have to put then in.
Commissioner Johnson stated he will support this project and feels it addresses the traffic issues
specifically and is in the hest interest of citizens of Bakersfield.
Commissioner McGinnis agreed with Commissioner Johnson in regards to the traffic mitigations
and asked the applicant if he would prefer to pass it with that mitigation measure with the idea in
mind that it would be annexed into the city or would you prefer to leave it as is. Mr. Moreno
replied that the condition Dills the project and gives the option of stopping the project now and
continue developing in the county or exhausting his administrative remedies and appeal to the
city council, staff responded that the county has advised that this project is under design and
the do expect to have it start construction within 2 years, and it noted that it will be an impact fee
project.
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Commissioner Andrews inquired of Mr. Moreno if he would be amenable to the idea of not being
able to pull permits until the grade crossing is under construction, as opposed to waiting a year.
Mr. Moreno clarified that one issue is the separation of grade and the bridge of the railroad
tracks, and the traffic signal at Santa Fe, of which the traffic signal is the shorter term. He
explained that the separation of grade is dealing with eight roads and is an engineering puzzle.
Mr. Moreno stated that he could extend the time to January 009 however he would like to have
a time certain.
Commissioner Blockley inquired ghat the relative time frame is for a zone change, annexation,
residential tract map} subdivisions and lots. staff responded that annexation probably takes a
year and the tentative tract reap in the single-family residential could be approved while it is in
the process of annexation, which would take another year before anyone moves into the home
and therefore it would be two years before you get to the residential portion. staff stated that
with regard to the industrial portion, a site plan review for use could be tentatively approved and
therefore in a year when it is annexed the applicant could move fairly quickly in getting permits to
start construction on the industrial portion. Therefore the industrial portion would take a year and
three months before there was any serious construction on the industrial portion.
Commissioner Blockley pointed out that the earliest the applicant could get started is 5 months,
and therefore them is a difference of a year between the condition in the October 17t h memo and
the applicant's proposal.
Commissioner Tragish commented that the memo is pretty open ended and somewhat over the
top. He further pointed out that there}s not much activity in the real estate market today and
building 68 homes could be a problem. commissioner Tragish stated that his inclination is that
maybe if they could put a restriction that no building permits coId be issued on the property for a
period of two years. staff commented that with today's market and the amount of time it will take
to annex and subdivide and actually get property owners on the residential part} Staff isn't tee
concerned about that. However, staffs concern is the industrial part and inquired if the applicant
would be agreeable to putting it off until prior to occupancy so that they could get their permits,
they just couldn't occupy a structure within the industrial portion until that signal is in.
Mr. Moreno stated that he thinks this is a fair compromise, although he would file a time limit.
Staff responded that they were originally dealing with two years and if it took eight months to
construct they are dealing with 32 months as an outside date} which wou Id put it at June 2010.
Commissioner Johnson commented that the project is premature until the infrastructure that is
needed in the County goes into place and therefore without that needed infrastructure this
project is premature.
Commissioner McGinnis moved, seconded by Commissioner Andrews to wept a Resolution
making findings approving the Negative Declaration changing the zone from A(Agriculture) to
(Estate Dwelling) on approximately 17 acres, and A(Agriculture)to I -1 (Light Manufacturing) on
approximately 10 acres as shorn on Exhibit A-2, and incorporating the revised condition
described in staff's memo dated October 12, 200 7, and incorporating a Memo by Marian Shaw
dated October 17, 2007 that states, "No certificate of occupancy can be issued on the industrial
property before either the grade separation or complete of the traffic signal at Hagern an Road
and Santa Fe Way is constructed and operational} or two yeas and eight months from the date of
approval, whichever is earlier, The developer may either contract to construct the signal himself,
or gait until the County of Kern completes the construction with a signal or the grade separation
district completes construction of the grade separation construction of a signal that is estimated
to begin within two }rears. Construction of the grade separation is not expected to occur until
2011 at the earliest.
Motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners: Blockley, Stanley, McGinnis, Andrews
NOES: Commissioners: Johnson, Tragish
ABSENT: Commissioner: Tl ac
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Commissioner Johnson commented that his no vote is due to the fact that he believes this
development is premature without the Infrastructure in place. He stated that he does not think it
would have been in the best Interest of the citizens of Bakersfield to put more traffic at an
intersection that is already at capacity and an unsafe situation. He commented that he didn't
think the compromise was enough.
Commissioner Tragish commented that he agrees with Commissioner Johnson,nson, although he is
sympathetic to Mr. Moreno. He stated that he thinks you need to have the infrastructure and he
wishes the compromise was a little more of a compromise.
6. PUBLIC HEARINGS — Vesting Tentative Parcel MaR Tentative Parcel MaRs., V s �
Tentative Tract
6.1 Vesting Tentative Parcel M a p 1 1758(J P/CP Development, Inc.)
Heard on consent calendar.
6.2 Tentgtive,Parcel Map 11614(Wiley D. Hughes, Surveying)
Heard on consent calendar.
6.3 e g Tentative Tract M S 1t T ch/USA, Inc.)
Heard on consent calendar.
6.4 Vesting Tentative Tract MaQ 7113(Pinnacle Civil Engineering, Inc.)
Heard on consent calendar.
7. COMMUNICATIONS:
Staff indicated they provided a set of rolled maps which include the latest General Plan as well as the
latest cumulative project reap.
8. COMMISSION COMMENTS:
Commissioner Johnson commented that Auburn and 0swell. is looping better.
9. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further com ment , the meeting was adjourned at 7:47 p.m.
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{{"{JAMES D. MOVIUS, Secretary
Planning Director
November 26,2007